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Ken Burch

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8. Corbyn got almost 60% of Labour members overall, though.

Reply to T_i_B (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:10 PM

Sep 2016

And without the completely unjustified mass voter purges, he might well have won among pre-2015 members as well.

The pre-2015 members have got to stop acting as if it's a disaster to have new people entering the party.

They need to admit that Corbyn's support is real, grassroots, and non-sectarian(it was always absurd to ascribe his 2015 win to Trotskyite entryists-Corbyn's supporters are sometimes radical, but their radicalism is derived from Occupy, not the People's Front of Judea-The Judean People's Front(splitters!)-The People's Popular Front of Judea.

Corbyn is here to stay, he is willing to work with the PLP and the old guard, and they now have an obligation to work with him.

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Labour leadership result prediction thread. [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2016 OP

Corbyn will win easily T_i_B Sep 2016 #1

Corbyn will win. I don't think anyone seriously expects otherwise. LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #2

65% -> 70% for Corbyn would be my guess. RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #3

Corbyn got 62% T_i_B Sep 2016 #4

Indeed RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #5

Petition calls for Gandhi statue to be removed from Ghana University muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #6

All Momentum is is a since, democratic, grassroots group of activists for change. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #9

The real divide in Labour T_i_B Sep 2016 #7

Corbyn got almost 60% of Labour members overall, though. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #8

Ironic that RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #10

Corbyn doesn't hate Israel(OR Israelis). He's against the injustices visited on the Palestinians... Ken Burch Sep 2016 #11

The irony was your Monty Python reference RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #14

"The People's Front of Judea" was actually the Pythons' satirical take Ken Burch Sep 2016 #15

I think RT realized this and was joking about it LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #22

The Trotskyite thing is actually a bit complex T_i_B Sep 2016 #12

The best way for the old guard to get the Corbynites working WITH them... Ken Burch Sep 2016 #16

At most, there are 2,000 Trotskyites in the entire UK. They fight against each other Ken Burch Sep 2016 #23

Trots ran the anti-Iraq war movement! T_i_B Sep 2016 #24

I was one, among I think many, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #25

Even if they ran that, so what? And is it a crime for an antiwar movement to be well-organized? Ken Burch Sep 2016 #26

The origins of the Corbyn insurgency... T_i_B Sep 2016 #27

I agree with you absolutely on that. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #28

YouGov ran an "exit poll". Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #13

You'd think they'd be happy that someone was causing Labour membership to increase. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #17

Blairites might disagree... T_i_B Sep 2016 #18

Brace yourself, T_i_B, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #19

Oh, I would never deny Blair's personality cult T_i_B Sep 2016 #20

This was the problem with New Labour's courting of and reliance on the media. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #21

So as an American reading this thread...I'm profoundly jealous. white_wolf Sep 2016 #29