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Ken Burch

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16. The best way for the old guard to get the Corbynites working WITH them...

Reply to T_i_B (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 25, 2016, 08:16 PM

Sep 2016

...would be to stop trying to drive the Corbynites away.

It's time that the old guard admit that Corbyn's supporters have just as much right to be part of Labour as Progress does.

Momentum is simply a group of committed democratic activists. They want to REVIVE the Labour party(a party that has continuously lost ground since 2005)not to destroy it.

The only way for Labour to recover is to stop treating socialists and left-wing campaigners as the enemy. Nobody really WANTS Labour to be viciously anti-Left in the Blair style anymore-at least not anyone who would actually consider voting Labour.

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Labour leadership result prediction thread. [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2016 OP

Corbyn will win easily T_i_B Sep 2016 #1

Corbyn will win. I don't think anyone seriously expects otherwise. LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #2

65% -> 70% for Corbyn would be my guess. RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #3

Corbyn got 62% T_i_B Sep 2016 #4

Indeed RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #5

Petition calls for Gandhi statue to be removed from Ghana University muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #6

All Momentum is is a since, democratic, grassroots group of activists for change. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #9

The real divide in Labour T_i_B Sep 2016 #7

Corbyn got almost 60% of Labour members overall, though. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #8

Ironic that RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #10

Corbyn doesn't hate Israel(OR Israelis). He's against the injustices visited on the Palestinians... Ken Burch Sep 2016 #11

The irony was your Monty Python reference RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #14

"The People's Front of Judea" was actually the Pythons' satirical take Ken Burch Sep 2016 #15

I think RT realized this and was joking about it LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #22

The Trotskyite thing is actually a bit complex T_i_B Sep 2016 #12

The best way for the old guard to get the Corbynites working WITH them... Ken Burch Sep 2016 #16

At most, there are 2,000 Trotskyites in the entire UK. They fight against each other Ken Burch Sep 2016 #23

Trots ran the anti-Iraq war movement! T_i_B Sep 2016 #24

I was one, among I think many, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #25

Even if they ran that, so what? And is it a crime for an antiwar movement to be well-organized? Ken Burch Sep 2016 #26

The origins of the Corbyn insurgency... T_i_B Sep 2016 #27

I agree with you absolutely on that. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #28

YouGov ran an "exit poll". Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #13

You'd think they'd be happy that someone was causing Labour membership to increase. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #17

Blairites might disagree... T_i_B Sep 2016 #18

Brace yourself, T_i_B, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #19

Oh, I would never deny Blair's personality cult T_i_B Sep 2016 #20

This was the problem with New Labour's courting of and reliance on the media. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #21

So as an American reading this thread...I'm profoundly jealous. white_wolf Sep 2016 #29