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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. Labour indeed has major problems.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:52 PM
Nov 2016

NONE of which can be solved by continuing to try to remove its current leader.

Jeremy Corbyn was elected BECAUSES of all of those factors, and the leaders of the continuing campaign to get him to just resign(something the PLP really no longer has any right to ask of him) are united in wanting not only to remove him, but ot erase his supporters and their principles from the party.

The party would be in at least as bad a state if David Miliband(who would simply be an exact continuation of sectarian Blairism if he had become leader) Liz Kendall(the essentially Tory figure most of the PLP wanted if the couldn't get David-The-Stabbed), Yvette Cooper or Andy Burnham were the leader at this point.

They anti-Corbynites haven't learned anything. They still won't tolerate any real break with the Third Way(nobody ever believed Owen Smith was anything but a Blairite), they still oppose any re-establishment of internal democracy, they still want the party's grassroots to be powerless and irrelevant. They don't want the party to be politically alive or to be open to any of the ideas and groups that represent the possibility of real change-they just want to go back to Labour's offer being "it's enough that we're not THAT lot&quot I was going to phrase it as "It's enough that we're not THEM, but thought fans of Van Morrison's mid-Sixties pop band might have been offended). They refuse to listen, they refuse to dialog, they refuse to do anything but simply demand that they be treated as if THEY are the party and no one else is.

I've said this before...but Corbyn probably would have stood down if, instead of the PLP simply demanding that he go and the hundreds of thousands of people who voted to elect and re-elect him as leader, it had agreed to Corbyn's internal democracy agenda and accepted the legitimacy of Momentum and the rests of Corbyn's supporters playing a meaningful role in how the party is run, and if it they had agreed, at a very minimum, to totally repudiate Blair's foreign and defence policies.

Would that REALLY have been so much to ask?

Did it have to be a Holy Blairite Restoration or nothing?

And can you at least see that the PLP is being destructively arrogant in wanting to simply expunge Corbyn's ideas and his supporters from the party?

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