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RogueTrooper

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9. Looks like the Tories are throwing in the anvil in Stoke
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tories-write-off-stoke-by-election-as-they-fear-awkward-defeat-party-sources-say_uk_588108f5e4b0b8867de7372b


The Tory party is set to give UKIP a clear run in the Stoke-on-Trent Central by-election in a bid to maximise Labour’s chances of defeat in its heartlands, The Huffington Post has learned.

Party sources say that they are instead pouring resources into the Copeland by-election in Cumbria, which will be held on the same day next month.

Jeremy Corbyn is facing a strong challenge in both seats, which have been rock-solid Labour for decades, after MPs critical of his leadership stepped down for new jobs outside politics.

But Conservative MPs and insiders say that it is “inconceivable” they will take the Stoke seat, where UKIP’s leader Paul Nuttall is the candidate and where his party came second in 2015.



They obviously think it is worth giving UKIP a toe-hold in the House to humiliate Corbyn. I wonder if they will try to convince Carswell to rejoin to take the sting out of Nuttal's win?

Is Hunt hoping to embarrass Corbyn by causing a by-election in which Labour loses ground? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1
Hunt & Reed could hurt Corbyn more by staying on and fighting. T_i_B Jan 2017 #2
Well, you've got me a little confused here. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #4
Had he campaigned harder for Remain RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #7
In the case of Stoke... T_i_B Jan 2017 #8
Looks like the Tories are throwing in the anvil in Stoke RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #9
If Copeland's going to be lost under Corbyn, it would be lost under any leader. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #10
And when was the last time you were in Keswick? T_i_B Jan 2017 #11
Never claimed I had been. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #12
It's traditionally a safe Labour seat T_i_B Jan 2017 #14
Labour should be offering policies(Corbyn probably will)to retrain these people in non-lethal work. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #17
Danger can be averted. T_i_B Jan 2017 #18
I think we need a bit of realism about the timeline here muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #21
I stand corrected on chronology. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #23
Anti-Corbyn feeling seems to be the exact problem muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #25
As your link indicates, an anti-Corbyn (therefore presumably right-wing)candidate was selected. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #26
Yes, she was selected last Thursday evening, 24 hours before the Telegraph story was published muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #27
It should be noted that Labour held the seat in 1983 and 1987 Ken Burch Jan 2017 #28
Jamie Reed wasn't yet born when the Windscale fire took place, so he couldn't have helped to cover LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #22
Ok, Jamie didn't personally cover up Windscale. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #24
No; I think he is taking a good job that was offered to him LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #3
I think the proposed boundary chages have played their part. T_i_B Jan 2017 #5
You make it sound as if it would be intrinsically unjust to deny him a nomination. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13
Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #15
If it's the Tories doing the boundary reductions, why bring "Corbyn loyalists" into it, then? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #16
Because Momentum are going to be very active in the selection process T_i_B Jan 2017 #19
Isn't it at least as legitimate for Momentum to try and get people it supports nominated... Ken Burch Jan 2017 #20
The seat is due to go with the boundary review RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #6
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