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Ken Burch

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23. I stand corrected on chronology.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:19 PM
Jan 2017

The larger point is that Jamie Reed went to work as a press agent for a nuclear plant built where a nuclear disaster had been. The fire occurred before he was born(and the government of that era did significantly hush it up), so he should have grown up aware of the risks, and Labour there should have been working to promote alternatives to nuclear as an employment source.

I wasn't meaning to be careless and realize I have been. Apologies.

In any case, it's silly to act as if Jamie Reed is a heroic victim of "loony left" persecution. He's simply a Blairite loyalist whose views are no longer popular in his own party OR in the country. No injustice has been done to him.

Thanks for the further information about Keswick. If that is narrowly divided between the Tories and Labour, than its addition to the constituency was always going to mean the Labour margin in Copeland overall would be reduced or possibly vanish. It would matter little whether Labour was led by Corbyn or by a right-wing establishment type like Cooper or Chuka Umunna, and it would matter little if the Labour candidate there was a left-winger or a "moderate&quot a group we should just go back to calling the Labour Right, since they aren't left-of-center on any major issues anymore).

So if Labour does lose Copeland, Corbyn is not to blame. It's just the constituency boundaries.

Is Hunt hoping to embarrass Corbyn by causing a by-election in which Labour loses ground? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1
Hunt & Reed could hurt Corbyn more by staying on and fighting. T_i_B Jan 2017 #2
Well, you've got me a little confused here. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #4
Had he campaigned harder for Remain RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #7
In the case of Stoke... T_i_B Jan 2017 #8
Looks like the Tories are throwing in the anvil in Stoke RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #9
If Copeland's going to be lost under Corbyn, it would be lost under any leader. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #10
And when was the last time you were in Keswick? T_i_B Jan 2017 #11
Never claimed I had been. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #12
It's traditionally a safe Labour seat T_i_B Jan 2017 #14
Labour should be offering policies(Corbyn probably will)to retrain these people in non-lethal work. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #17
Danger can be averted. T_i_B Jan 2017 #18
I think we need a bit of realism about the timeline here muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #21
I stand corrected on chronology. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #23
Anti-Corbyn feeling seems to be the exact problem muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #25
As your link indicates, an anti-Corbyn (therefore presumably right-wing)candidate was selected. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #26
Yes, she was selected last Thursday evening, 24 hours before the Telegraph story was published muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #27
It should be noted that Labour held the seat in 1983 and 1987 Ken Burch Jan 2017 #28
Jamie Reed wasn't yet born when the Windscale fire took place, so he couldn't have helped to cover LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #22
Ok, Jamie didn't personally cover up Windscale. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #24
No; I think he is taking a good job that was offered to him LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #3
I think the proposed boundary chages have played their part. T_i_B Jan 2017 #5
You make it sound as if it would be intrinsically unjust to deny him a nomination. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13
Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #15
If it's the Tories doing the boundary reductions, why bring "Corbyn loyalists" into it, then? Ken Burch Jan 2017 #16
Because Momentum are going to be very active in the selection process T_i_B Jan 2017 #19
Isn't it at least as legitimate for Momentum to try and get people it supports nominated... Ken Burch Jan 2017 #20
The seat is due to go with the boundary review RogueTrooper Jan 2017 #6
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