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LeftishBrit

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16. I was responding specifically to your remark
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

'The problem is, there's no way to fight to keep Britain in the EU that isn't elitist and antidemocratic. And there's no reason to think THAT fighting to stay in the EU would result in anything but UKIP staying in business and continuing to gain votes in the North and Northeast of England.'

This is why I brought up the EU.

The right-wing media are absolutely gung-ho in their propaganda to suppress dissent about the EU, and about immigration and refugees, by smearing anti-Brexiters in precisely these terms as elitist and anti-democratic; and for example calling judges who insisted on a parliamentary vote on Brexit as 'ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE'. They are indeed intimidating many Labour politicians as well as almost all Tory ones. I know that you are not in this country, and cannot be expected to be aware of some of the implications and origins of certain debating points; but you - no doubt inadvertently - used the same arguments that our RW media are using to suppress dissent; and that is what I was protesting against in my posts.

Well, anything Chuka Umunna does is about trying to make Labour stand for nothing at all Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1
If this is how Unite treat other people in the Labour movement... T_i_B Jan 2017 #2
I didn't support what McCluskey did. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #3
Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #4
It's not about "ideological purity", it's about who you fight for. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #5
So you are supporting McCluskey's actions then. T_i_B Feb 2017 #6
No, I'm not supporting McCluskey's actions Ken Burch Feb 2017 #7
This is not about Corbyn, Umunna or McCluskey but about Remain/Leave and the RIGHT to fight against LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #8
As I said, I'd have voted Remain. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #9
Because at the moment leaving the EU is inextricably intertwined with anti-immigrant, racist policy LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Feb 2017 #11
Was this post intended for me? LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #12
I should have sent it to the person who started this thread Ken Burch Feb 2017 #13
I was responding specifically to your remark LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #16
Two things I think came into play with what McCluskey did(I don't support suspensions, period) Ken Burch Feb 2017 #14
Thank f**k you aren't my union rep T_i_B Feb 2017 #15
Is there any way to improve matters for UNITE's members.. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #17
The answer is by building coalitions T_i_B Feb 2017 #18
The members of the PLP who still want Corbyn out aren't PART of the left, though Ken Burch Feb 2017 #19
They absolutly are 100% part of the left T_i_B Feb 2017 #20
I've got nothing against Clive Lewis. Clive Lewis supports Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #21
Unite HQ Dworkin Feb 2017 #22
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