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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:51 PM

26. I agree with Ken in the Scottish context.

I think this "antisemitism" kerfuffle - handily played up by the blatantly opportunistic Labour right in the shape of John Mann et al. (take a look at his Twitter feed recently if you want to see what a real backlash looks like), exacerbated by Livingstone's inability to keep his gob shut (I actually think he had some valid points among what he said, but Shah seemed perfectly able to take care of herself and actually has good relations her local synagogue, and he couldn't have chosen a worse time to grab the limelight) and aided and abetted by the trusty media - just won't be a significant factor in Scotland. The die was cast long ago.

Where I may disagree with Ken (Burch, that is) is that I can't see any way back for Scottish Labour, radical rethink or no. A rethink won't erase people's memory of years of incompetence and not infrequent graft at various levels of government, nor the sense of entitlement and taking the electorate for granted that landed them in the situation they're in now. A recent poll found that those left behind are considerably more right-wing than SNP members on a wide range of issues, although they like to consider themselves of "the left", or even "socialist". It's not just the leadership that's the problem. The political ground Scottish Labour could move into is already well catered for, both to the right and to the left.

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