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25. not at all
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:15 AM
Dec 2012

people without guns are a problem, but people with guns are exponentially a more costly and dangerous problem than without being armed.

It is a specious argument that you are making.

It is a repetition of the false argument made in the statement 'guns don't kill people, people kill people'.

NO, people with guns kill more people, than people without guns do using other methods, and they do so at a distance, more easily.

There is a clear distinction in both the purpose of guns and the lethality of guns. But in any case it is irrelevant, since guns are used to kill. In countries which have more regulated guns, it is not a comparable problem and in states that are more regulated, guns do not pose the same degree of a public health issue either. Further, there are more shootings in guns allowed areas than in gun free zones.

So gun regulation does work, however much gun nuts dislike the statistics.

Guns which fire at a rapid rate, and where there are expanded magazines to permit more bullets to be fired before reloading kill more efficiently than guns which do not.

We are not going to rehash that false argument here Jody, so either start addressing something relating to the economics of this post, or expect to be excluded from the discussion.

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How about drone insurance? westerebus Dec 2012 #1
Do you own a drone that is weapons capable? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #14
No more than the OP wandered into the all inclusive guns be evil debate. westerebus Dec 2012 #20
you are incorrect Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #35
Already addressed the liability issue re: governmental immunity on par with uninsured motorist. westerebus Dec 2012 #36
FBI reports "Hands, fists, feet, etc." commit 5.7% of murders, Rifles and Shotguns for 5.4%. jody Dec 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #3
Your problem is you believe guns create crime and the FACT that other things cause jody Dec 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #5
1. NO. 2. where is economics in any way part of your contribution to this discussion? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #21
all guns should be both insured and taxed Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #22
I"m one of the hosts for the economy group, so YES i will take on the 'moderator' role, as you call Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #24
Not at all - it is only necessary to establish that guns are part of some crime Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #10
You say "we have established that firearms are a problem" is as ridiculous as saying "we have jody Dec 2012 #13
not at all Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #25
There can be no economic effect if guns do not create crime. Fact is gun # has jody Dec 2012 #30
actually, let me amend that - it is not necessary to establish or prove crime at all to tax/insure Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #17
You have an OP problem it lumped all firearms together. nt jody Dec 2012 #6
That in NOT a problem Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #18
"Last warning" LOL Dog Gone at Penigma with 269 posts. nt jody Dec 2012 #19
are you being humorous? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #8
Murder is not humorous to me but proposals that are utterly ridiculous do have a sad humor to them jody Dec 2012 #11
violence is not humorous either Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #15
"on topic for this subject" after you answer #2 nt jody Dec 2012 #16
Any constitutionally protected right may not be impeded by taxation Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #7
not true Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #9
So we can have a poll tax then? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #29
false equivalency Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #31
We can pass an amendment for a poll tax then. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #33
In theory - yes Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #34
Should drinkers and drug users have liability insurance before being served? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #26
don't be silly Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #27
SOP Remmah2 Dec 2012 #28
and the 24th amendment outlawing any poll tax mean that there is no impediment to other taxation Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #32
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