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NNadir

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4. I'm sure you're very noble. Almost everyone who bothers to read what I write is noble.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:08 PM
Oct 2016

I'm not noble, except that I do my best to be honest.

I really don't care what you do.

I am merely reporting that the American lifestyle is unsustainable, and the people who will pay for this investment in unsustainable lifestyles are, well, every single human being in the future.

Which would you prefer, that no one questions your noble contributions to charity and that all future generations live in unimaginable poverty as a result, or that we face the uncomfortable fact that we are lying to ourselves?

I will submit that when this planet hits 500 ppm of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere - pretty much a sure bet - all of your charitable contributions and tax payments will mean nothing to anyone.

What we are doing is demanding that all future generations pay for our short term comfort.

Nature: "Current models of climate economics assume that lives in the future are less important... than lives today, a value judgment that is rarely scrutinized and difficult to defend..."


This may come as something of a surprise, but billions of people once lived useful and interesting lives without cars, still do in fact.

That you, in particular, would be confined to your home, doesn't mean that everyone would be so confined.

By the way, I own a car, and I drive it. I hate it; but I drive it. You can now feel free to note that not only am I unpleasant, but I am also a hypocrite.

There was a time in my life - I lived in the Los Angeles area - that I undertook a one man revolution against the internal combustion engine - I bicycled everywhere - but I lost the revolution. I gave up after just a few years. I surrendered. History will not forgive people like me, car drivers, nor should it.

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