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19. h2 gas
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:00 PM
Mar 2017

I am an older scientist:
No. the steel does not burn it lasts years. The energy comes from electricity, direct current. Electric energy forces the water atoms to divide into hydrogen and oxygen (remember H2O) The oxygen and hydrogen will join again and the energy will be released, just like Oxygen and Gasoline combine O2 + O2 +CH3* = CO2* + H2O +O-. All require ignition to set it off, like any fire. No metal is involved: it is only a conductor. Its the water that is consumed and must be refilled like gasoline. This little miracle might make us respect water more...it is not free, any more than steel or gasoline. It comes to us by solar power. Water is life itself.

Making electricity from Hydrogen gas is complex chemistry requiring a catalyst. It is not efficient and it's political, ie invented by the oil industry to combat hydrogen. The logic of using hydrogen and oxygen in the car is: the alternator of the car produces lots of unused electricity, which can be connected to the conductors in water to create the flammable gas combination. No carburetor or fuel injector is needed since the gas amounts are already matched to go back together. The motor runs better, spark is not retarded with hydrogen/oxygen gas, so no electronics.

Why this is a new concept I dont know. but it is getting popular and it should. it would have helped the auto industry from day one. However, consider that the petroleum industry would have lost billion$$$... of dollars if the cars had harnessed the alternator, and then you can see a motive(no, they never would, you say). Everyone remembers the Hindenburg and guess why. The oil industry pushed the newsreel: it was run more than any film clip in history. The public wanted hydrogen in the 1920s because so many gasoline trucks blew up in neighborhoods. The oil industry made their case against hydrogen by reeling the Hindenburg incident. You can see by studying the film,however, that the Hindenburg DID NOT explode. I leave that to you. Hydrogen is less dangerous than gasoline.

An "I'm gonna do it" Kick! defacto7 Apr 2014 #1
An "I love kitchen kludges" kick Warpy Apr 2014 #2
I'm confused! rgbecker Apr 2014 #3
These people are very unclear on ideas, period. See post 4. eppur_se_muova Apr 2014 #5
both nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #8
Well, you're indirectly "burning" steel as fuel, and it takes coal to produce steel ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2014 #4
Bingo. How many miles per scrub pad would you get with this set-up? NickB79 Apr 2014 #6
MANY times more. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2014 #7
mpsp (miles per scrub pad) is not the point nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #9
And some people on the Internet can correctly sort through claims without building stuff caraher Apr 2014 #10
Excellent post and one that should be referenced each time these dumbass schemes resurface. Nihil Apr 2014 #11
I'm not suggesting making hydrogen from aluminum foil nationalize the fed May 2014 #13
Hydrogen is an inefficient storage medium.... kristopher May 2014 #14
Shouldn't you notify Honda's engineers nationalize the fed May 2014 #15
Are you denying the poor system efficiency? kristopher May 2014 #17
the sceme trustworthy Mar 2017 #22
Welcome to DU, trustworthy! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2017 #23
So what is your answer? oldhippie May 2014 #16
no need to compress hydrogen trustworthy Mar 2017 #20
h2 gas trustworthy Mar 2017 #19
Hey! Y'all watch this.... jpak Apr 2014 #12
Hydrogen exploded the Fukushima containment buildings. hunter May 2014 #18
fuel is not explosive trustworthy Mar 2017 #21
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