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Finishline42

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24. To begin with - raising the gas tax is political suicide - straight from a congressional staffer
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

Wyatt - this is meant more as a general response to this topic but I'm using your post as a jumping off point.

To begin with - raising the gas tax is political suicide - straight from a congressional staffer which is why it doesn't come up in Congress. I've always thought that raising the gas tax $.10 a year for 10 years (or even 5 years) wouldn't be much different than what we see on the consistent up and downs of the price of gas. Dec 2015 it was $1.60 where I live. It's basically double that now.

There's also the issue from the GOP in using gas tax revenue to fund mass transit (even though the more people that ride buses and trains mean fewer people on the roads and as a result less wear and tear). It also ignores the fact that urban areas pay more in taxes so using the gas tax to fund mass transport is a way to return some value for their contributions.

With regards to the cost of an EV, used Leaf's can be had for $10k, and yes they require less maintenance (no oil changes, no filters, less brake wear). Gas cost is approx $1000 per 10,000 miles driven (10,000 / 30 mpg x $3.00/gal).

There's also the fact that you can buy solar panels and make your own electricity.

Something not mentioned that the $7500 rebate has a hand in - creating good paying jobs. From making cars to batteries - there are a lot of people working as a result.

Plus the more EV's that are sold means that there will be more of them on the used market in a couple of years.

I saw somewhere that one of Rupert Murdoch's kids was going to be Tesla's new chairman... RockRaven Oct 2018 #1
Wonder if it's GM or Ford or both contributing to his campaign fund? brush Oct 2018 #2
0. Republican introduces new bill to end the $7,500 federal tax credit for electric cars and tax the Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #3
In other words, force people to be rich enough to buy electric cars? progree Oct 2018 #4
Only rich people can afford electric cars now Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #5
How does taxing gas so everyone is forced to buy a car that "only rich people can afford" help? uppityperson Oct 2018 #6
People not using our/fossil fuel Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #7
Citing The Daily Caller, a climate change denier? Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #8
Doncha know? The Daily Caller is the poor peoples' friend ROFLMFAO. n/t progree Oct 2018 #9
Well what do you deem appropriate? Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #10
That piece is an honest assessment of the UN position Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #12
So you think the way to combate man made climate change Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #13
Industry is responsible for about 85 percent of total greenhouse gases Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #16
What about subsiding poor people so they can buy electric cars? uppityperson Oct 2018 #11
A $7,000 subsidize is just for rich people Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #14
What about subsidizing so poor people can buy electric cars? uppityperson Oct 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author mahina Oct 2018 #29
To begin with - raising the gas tax is political suicide - straight from a congressional staffer Finishline42 Oct 2018 #24
See, that is the crux of the problem. MichMan Oct 2018 #27
It doesn't matter a whit. This subsidy for rich people has nothing to do with the environment. NNadir Oct 2018 #15
Can you please quantitatively compare the primary fuel in BTU used to power an electric car progree Oct 2018 #18
Well, I don't get my science from articles in Forbes, nor do I credit the idea of ignoring... NNadir Oct 2018 #19
On externalities - any "science" article that applies to the U.S., instead of China? progree Oct 2018 #21
I said I was being generous at 90% for all of the conversions, but what does it matter? NNadir Oct 2018 #22
Some insights into why I perhaps myopically focus on the U.S. progree Oct 2018 #23
OK. Everyone should do what they can; clearly you are; but I hope... NNadir Oct 2018 #25
I think you might have a misunderstanding... NeoGreen Oct 2018 #20
I'm not rich and that subsidy helped me afford an electric car tinrobot Oct 2018 #31
I'm very happy for your personal story. NNadir Oct 2018 #32
100 million electric vehicles? Where did you get that? tinrobot Oct 2018 #33
He likes to throw numbers around to confuse the subject Finishline42 Oct 2018 #34
these are the same people that killed the electric street car in the 40s AllaN01Bear Oct 2018 #26
They must be really old by now MichMan Oct 2018 #28
This is fine with me TBH Calculating Oct 2018 #30
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