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R. Daneel Olivaw

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Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:54 PM Apr 2015

Obama’s role model to journalists — Dorothy Thompson — turned against Zionism and was silenced [View all]

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/journalists-thompson-silenced


[Thompson returned home a national hero, her story on the cover of newspapers and magazines throughout the country. Her fame increased as she became a syndicated national columnist and radio commentator for NBC. By 1936, she was writing a political column for the New York Herald Tribune and was considered the leading voice in the war against fascism. By 1939, she was on the cover of Time magazine. A movie about her life stared Katharine Hepburn and a play stared Lauren Bacall. She was named the second most popular and influential woman in America behind Eleanor Roosevelt. She spoke out about anti-Semitism and the plight of the Jews in Europe, and urged a relaxation of immigration restrictions so the US could be a safe haven for the Jews under threat in Europe.

In the summer of 1941, she went to London to report on the Blitz and met with the Queen and with Prime Minister Winston Churchill. She fought against isolationism and urged the president to declare war on Germany. In 1942, at a Zionist convention at the Biltmore hotel, she was the keynote speaker and gave a rousing pro-Zionist speech advocating unrestricted Jewish immigration to Palestine. By the end of the war, she was considered one of Zionism’s most effective spokesmen.

All that changed early in 1945 after a fact-finding trip to Palestine. Up until 1945, her anti-Nazi and pro-Zionist credentials were impeccable. What she saw in Palestine totally changed her outlook. She began to write that the proposed establishment of the State of Israel was a formula for disaster, “a recipe for perpetual war” in the Middle East. During her 1945 trip, she discovered that Zionism was not “the liberal crusade that the Zionist leaders envisaged”, and that Israel was to be “not a small state of Jews who chose to live in Israel, but a Zionist state destined to become the leading power in the Middle East.”

Her anti-Zionist statements and reporting began losing her the support of American Zionists. Her boss at the New York Post dropped her “On the Record” column at the beginning of 1947. He was a strong supporter of Zionism and very close to the Irgunists and Menachem Begin, the leader of this Jewish terrorist group. Thompson had told him, after her trip to Palestine, that “…the situation there is not the way it has been presented by many of the Zionists. It is one of the most complicated and difficult problems on the earth today.”
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Those darn Zionists have been causing problems for like ever oberliner Apr 2015 #1
Mondoweiss was scooped last year by the neo-Nazis at If-Americans-Knew shira Apr 2015 #3
the article is 11 year old it's from 2004 and neither "scooped" the other azurnoir Apr 2015 #5
A 12-step program, perhaps Scootaloo Apr 2015 #4
and what is your opinion about Obama affording her special honor? azurnoir Apr 2015 #7
He didn't oberliner Apr 2015 #8
debunked in post #16 azurnoir Apr 2015 #19
Debunked nothing, the quote used has nothing to do with Zionism King_David Apr 2015 #23
Maybe you need to read post #16 again oberliner Apr 2015 #24
I someone does but not me :) azurnoir Apr 2015 #25
Ok - what should I look for? oberliner Apr 2015 #26
LOL King_David Apr 2015 #9
Very much typical Mondoweiss oberliner Apr 2015 #11
It's almost wishful thinking on the mondoweiss part King_David Apr 2015 #12
Well, ober. That's what I am doing. Sucks, doesn't it? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #14
We know that's what you're doing. It's obvious. n/t shira Apr 2015 #17
Yep. Speaking truth to power. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #30
The chances of you staying or going R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #32
No, not truth. A certain narrative. shira Apr 2015 #37
If Palestinians were illegally colonizing Israeli lands R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #39
That's your example of truth to power? shira Apr 2015 #41
Did anybody just notice what shira did there? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #43
Who are you talking to? Your truth to power is nonsense... shira Apr 2015 #50
Your excuses need a tune up poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #51
Your non-responses and desperate aversion to facts and history shira Apr 2015 #61
Whatever you say dear... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #76
When you're ready to justify or prove that you're correct, I'm sure you'll let me know. shira Apr 2015 #78
"Are you trying to get my posts hidden?" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #52
You didn't answer the question. n/t shira Apr 2015 #59
Oh, but I did. Understandably, you missed the obvious. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #73
All that was needed was a yes/no reply. You dodged the question.... shira Apr 2015 #74
Try reading this very, very slowly. If necessary read it a few more times. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #75
Writing that I deserved them does not imply whether or not you're trying.... shira Apr 2015 #77
Where did I write that... "deserved?" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #80
Really? You don't know what you wrote? shira Apr 2015 #86
Please stop lying about what I have written, shira. It makes you appear as you really are. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #90
Keep trucking with that denial. You continue to refuse to answer Yes or No. n/t shira Apr 2015 #92
I have no denials that you are completely disingenuous when it comes to the factual. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #96
So why not answer the question with either a Yes or No? What do u fear by doing so? n/t shira Apr 2015 #103
Let me leave you with a quote that you may understand some day... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #113
Huh? azurnoir Apr 2015 #62
And? What's your point? n/t shira Apr 2015 #63
cite the international law that says WB settlements are legal because it's the Jewish homeland azurnoir Apr 2015 #65
San Remo 1920. shira Apr 2015 #66
go tell Obama in 1920 the British promised land that wasn't theirs sorry the partition plan azurnoir Apr 2015 #67
In 2011, the USA vetoed a UN resolution that would declare settlements as illegal shira Apr 2015 #69
Name one who has promoted San Remo for your purposes, Kerry called them illegitmate azurnoir Apr 2015 #70
Case closed. You can't find one Democrat who says settlements are illegal. shira Apr 2015 #71
"Or worse, they've all compromised their principles... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #81
So why post on a Democratic Forum if you think so little about every elected Democrat? n/t shira Apr 2015 #88
This may be hard for you to fathom for the following reasons... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #101
So let's recap about your support of Democrats who defend Israel shira Apr 2015 #104
So I see. What I wrote was hard for you to fathom. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #112
No, you're just not being consistent as you have double-standards & cannot... shira May 2015 #118
again cite the international law that says the WB is Israel's azurnoir Apr 2015 #85
Shira is prolly too busy cutting fabrications from whole cloth as to have time to reply to you. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #95
Another timeout. Is that wishful thinking or a threat? n/t shira May 2015 #120
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, my dear... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #125
San Remo 1920. Being 95 years old doesn't mean it's irrelevant... shira May 2015 #119
Interesting .... Israeli Apr 2015 #2
Dorothy Thompson was adamantly anti-Nazi she was one of the earliest critics of the Nazi party azurnoir Apr 2015 #6
Dorothy Thompson also used the dual loyalty canard against Jews... shira Apr 2015 #10
perhaps you should reread your own post. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #13
No, I think you should. She bashed Jews (not Israeli Jews) in the previous quote provided.... shira Apr 2015 #15
so you accuse the Democratic POTUS of endorsing an antisemite? -well okay them azurnoir Apr 2015 #18
He didn't "endorse" her oberliner Apr 2015 #20
ah huh azurnoir Apr 2015 #56
Good justification for your POV. It's okay to admit you're wrong on this. n/t shira Apr 2015 #64
except I am not wrong azurnoir Apr 2015 #68
Then make your case. Justify it. Prove it. n/t shira Apr 2015 #72
God, you are horrible at this. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #100
Fail. shira Apr 2015 #106
Yes, you've failed. Here's why. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #110
Henry Ford's words alone belong to him, and our POTUS obviously endorsed.... shira May 2015 #117
Transcript, Obama: Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #16
That is a great quote oberliner Apr 2015 #21
It's quite a stretch but then again it's Mondoweiss King_David Apr 2015 #22
She was a right wing anti-communist with similar views as McCarthy. hack89 Apr 2015 #28
Well, our POTUS doesn't appear to believe so. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #29
But it suggests another reason for her "silencing" other than Israeli hack89 Apr 2015 #31
She eventually concluded that Zionism was a recipe for perpetual war. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #33
Any increased Jewish presences would have led to violence hack89 Apr 2015 #34
And a nation was born on the backs if another people... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #35
If you are looking for social justice in world politics, especially after WWII hack89 Apr 2015 #36
If excuses were pork chops Israel could open a Butcher shop. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #38
I think that Israel should remove the settlements hack89 Apr 2015 #40
You missed the point entirely. When you say Israel was built on the backs.... shira Apr 2015 #46
Try using my whole quote, you cherry picker you... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #49
A people whose nationalism was non-existent until the Zionist movement.... shira Apr 2015 #60
Your bunk is just not credible, dear. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #79
I wrote about Palestinian Nationalism being non-existant until the '60s.... shira Apr 2015 #84
Please stop falsifying the truth. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #89
What you mean is for me to please stop pointing out falsehoods in your arguments... shira Apr 2015 #91
From your Wik link, poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #94
That wiki quote doesn't show how a Palestinian NATIONALIST movement.... shira Apr 2015 #107
Sorry you're confused, poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #108
There was no distinct Palestinian national movement existing until the 60's... shira Apr 2015 #109
"If Jews weren't slaughtered and expelled from Israel over the past 2000 years, they'd have been... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #115
So your answer is basically "too bad they were expelled and slaughtered"? shira May 2015 #122
Those are your words, my unremarkable friend. Here's more... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #124
Right, you just don't understand them. Don't know if it's deliberate or not... shira May 2015 #128
From the Wik... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #130
Huh? The Palestinians could've agreed to the 1937 Peel Plan or 1947 Partition Plan. shira Apr 2015 #45
Regardless of what was approved or wasn't approve R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #48
The only logical conclusion we can infer from all this Palestinian rejection... shira Apr 2015 #57
Logic escapes the colonist mind, shira; especially when refering to the colonized. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #97
Who cares what she thought about Israel/Zionism? She said some very hateful things.... shira Apr 2015 #44
The POTUS thought enough to mention her... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #47
But not in the context of her views on Jews. hack89 Apr 2015 #54
The POTUS mentioned Henry Ford too... shira Apr 2015 #58
You mean like this quote...? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #98
No, try to keep up. I mentioned Henry Ford, who was a crazy racist... shira Apr 2015 #105
I don't believe that I would ever quote you on anything, my unremarkable friend, but if it makes R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #111
I don't believe you get logic 101... shira May 2015 #116
Context is missed on you. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #123
I think you could benefit from a Logic 101 course. No, I mean really,really benefit.... shira May 2015 #127
No, my poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #131
Hilarious. n/t shira May 2015 #132
Whatever you say, poor dear... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #134
Where do you see our POTUS agreeing with her views on Israel? n/t shira Apr 2015 #42
One, who happens to be POTUS, doesn't usually R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #53
So what if Bush II quoted some homophobic hater of Muslims & Arabs... shira Apr 2015 #55
You're getting Bush and Obama confused on this? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #82
I have a serious question for you oberliner Apr 2015 #83
When you choose the quote you choose the person behind it as well: part and parcel.* R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #93
I asked you another simple question & again you chose to dodge it... shira Apr 2015 #87
Well, shira, if you are going to try and defend Bush II on things that's your business... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #99
Defend Bush? Nope. Just pointing out your double-standard. n/t shira Apr 2015 #102
By you defending Bush II. Okay... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #114
Wow, you really don't understand logic and reasoning. shira May 2015 #121
Sure I do, poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #129
Hopeless. n/t shira May 2015 #133
Whatever you say, poor dear... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #135
But more importantly... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #136
Bibi certainly has his place deep in Israel's roots. So does Ms. Thompson's critique of Zionism. leveymg May 2015 #126
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