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Violet_Crumble

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6. As usual, yr wrong. The Nakba was the dispossession of around 700,000 Palestinians...
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:33 AM
May 2012

Nakba means "Catastrophe" in Arabic. It refers to the destruction of Palestinian society in 1948 when more than 700,000 Palestinians fled or were forced into exile by Israeli troops. Because the Palestinians were not Jewish, their presence and predominant ownership of the land were obstacles to the creation of a Jewish state. Their exodus, or Nakba, was already nearly half-complete by May 1948, when Israel declared its independence and the Arab states entered the fray.

Many Zionist leaders in Palestine openly favored "transfer" of the indigenous Palestinian population. Zionist forces used clashes that erupted as the British Mandate of Palestine came to an end in 1947-48 to rid as much of the land of its Palestinian inhabitants as possible. By the end of 1948, more than 700,000 Palestinians - two-thirds of the Palestinian population - fled in panic or were forcibly expelled. It is estimated that more than 50 percent fled under direct military assault. Others fled in panic as news of massacres - more than 100 civilians in the village of Deir Yassin and 200 in Tantura -- spread.

Zionist forces depopulated more than 450 Palestinian towns and villages, most of which were demolished to prevent the return of the refugees. (Figures of the number of towns and villages destroyed and depopulated vary. The Israeli daily Haaretz reports 530 lost villages.) These comprised three-quarters of the Palestinian villages inside the areas held by Israeli forces after the end of the war. The newly established Israeli government confiscated refugees' land and properties and turned them over to Jewish immigrants. Although Jews owned only about seven percent of the land in Palestine and constituted about 33 percent of the population, Israel was established on 78 percent of Palestine.

http://imeu.net/news/article001237.shtml#1

You don't have to pay to read full articles at Ha'aretz oberliner May 2012 #1
Thanks. I must have been trying to read one that was part of their premium content... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #2
No problem oberliner May 2012 #39
Thanks and it's true in attempting to outlaw the Nakba azurnoir May 2012 #3
There's simply no excuse in outlawing Nakba Day Ken Burch May 2012 #4
Isn't Nakba Day a day of mourning for the failure of Israel's neighbors... shira May 2012 #5
As usual, yr wrong. The Nakba was the dispossession of around 700,000 Palestinians... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #6
So you know that if no war on the Jews was declared in 1948... shira May 2012 #7
The Zionist side had been discussing forcible transfer for years. Ken Burch May 2012 #9
Very unlikely for many reasons. One being that Ben Gurion wouldn't do it. n/t shira May 2012 #10
Ben-Gurion on transfer: Ken Burch May 2012 #12
Context. Where is it? shira May 2012 #15
It was from testimony to the Peel Commission. Ken Burch May 2012 #22
Still no context, and yes it matters. Here's Benny Morris... shira May 2012 #23
why no citation? n/t azurnoir May 2012 #24
Sorry...here's three sources for the second quote: Ken Burch May 2012 #28
I don't think you understand what a source is oberliner May 2012 #37
Do you even know what the Peel Commission is? oberliner May 2012 #40
I stand corrected on the date. Ken Burch May 2012 #46
How confident are you of the validity of that quote? oberliner May 2012 #16
I believe it came from here azurnoir May 2012 #25
I do believe he said no such thing and in fact said something else entirely oberliner May 2012 #26
I'll have to rememberthis the n ext time you attempt to delegitimize wiki however azurnoir May 2012 #27
and the first quote by Ben-Gurion was rather a non-sequator azurnoir May 2012 #35
See post #28 Ken Burch May 2012 #29
There are not multiple sources for the quote oberliner May 2012 #36
ah you mean the wiki quotes from 1919 and 1920 ? azurnoir May 2012 #38
Is there something you didn't understand about the information I gave you? Violet_Crumble May 2012 #17
You say you know what 1948 was about. Hmm.... shira May 2012 #19
Yeah, their land.... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #20
No land was being taken prior to the wars of 1948.... shira May 2012 #21
But they did not have the right Ken Burch May 2012 #30
Do you hear yourself? They did not have the right.... shira May 2012 #31
The Palestinians weren't against Jews living in Palestine Ken Burch May 2012 #32
It wasn't up to them. The Turks allowed Jews to live throughout the mideast.... shira May 2012 #42
The issue with Jerusalem is EAST Jerusalem, not ALL of Jerusalem Ken Burch May 2012 #33
Both Hamas and the PA are calling for all Jerusalem.... shira May 2012 #43
No, it isn't, and yes, you're wrong. Ken Burch May 2012 #8
It's only about being dispossessed? shira May 2012 #11
If they had been allowed to return, without retribution, after the war was over Ken Burch May 2012 #13
Oh stop it... shira May 2012 #14
Of course I knew there were two wars Ken Burch May 2012 #34
Yes, and the first was a civil war. And you cannot understand why Israel was reluctant... shira May 2012 #41
They could at least have let the oldest come back. Ken Burch May 2012 #44
Ken, a few posts back you said that Israel should have let all refugees back in.... shira May 2012 #45
Very interesting article LeftishBrit May 2012 #18
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