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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. If they had been allowed to return, without retribution, after the war was over
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

it is difficult to believe that the Palestinians would still have wanted to resist the existence of Israel in any form whatsoever, or to automatically be fixated on driving out anybody who simply happened to be Jewish.

After all, they had co-existed well enough with the indigenous Jewish population of Judea and Samaria, at least, prior to 1948.

I will always wonder why it wasn't enough for the Israeli government, post-1967, to ask that THOSE people be resettled. Why, instead of that, did Ariel Sharon decide to bring in huge numbers of people that had no direct connection with the lands of the West Bank, many of whom(not all, but many)were there out of messianic religious and revanchist political intent. It would have been just to call for those who'd lived their prior to 1948 to be allowed back..but why anybody else? And why, if anybody else had to be brought in, did people who were the craziest of the crazy have to be included?

I mean, seriously shira, can you not see how it MIGHT possibly cause trouble amongst the Palestinians for these outsiders, many of whom were brought in from America, of all places, with the attitude that "it's OUR land, not YOURS" to not only be brought in from elsewhere but defended by the might of the IDF?

You don't have to pay to read full articles at Ha'aretz oberliner May 2012 #1
Thanks. I must have been trying to read one that was part of their premium content... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #2
No problem oberliner May 2012 #39
Thanks and it's true in attempting to outlaw the Nakba azurnoir May 2012 #3
There's simply no excuse in outlawing Nakba Day Ken Burch May 2012 #4
Isn't Nakba Day a day of mourning for the failure of Israel's neighbors... shira May 2012 #5
As usual, yr wrong. The Nakba was the dispossession of around 700,000 Palestinians... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #6
So you know that if no war on the Jews was declared in 1948... shira May 2012 #7
The Zionist side had been discussing forcible transfer for years. Ken Burch May 2012 #9
Very unlikely for many reasons. One being that Ben Gurion wouldn't do it. n/t shira May 2012 #10
Ben-Gurion on transfer: Ken Burch May 2012 #12
Context. Where is it? shira May 2012 #15
It was from testimony to the Peel Commission. Ken Burch May 2012 #22
Still no context, and yes it matters. Here's Benny Morris... shira May 2012 #23
why no citation? n/t azurnoir May 2012 #24
Sorry...here's three sources for the second quote: Ken Burch May 2012 #28
I don't think you understand what a source is oberliner May 2012 #37
Do you even know what the Peel Commission is? oberliner May 2012 #40
I stand corrected on the date. Ken Burch May 2012 #46
How confident are you of the validity of that quote? oberliner May 2012 #16
I believe it came from here azurnoir May 2012 #25
I do believe he said no such thing and in fact said something else entirely oberliner May 2012 #26
I'll have to rememberthis the n ext time you attempt to delegitimize wiki however azurnoir May 2012 #27
and the first quote by Ben-Gurion was rather a non-sequator azurnoir May 2012 #35
See post #28 Ken Burch May 2012 #29
There are not multiple sources for the quote oberliner May 2012 #36
ah you mean the wiki quotes from 1919 and 1920 ? azurnoir May 2012 #38
Is there something you didn't understand about the information I gave you? Violet_Crumble May 2012 #17
You say you know what 1948 was about. Hmm.... shira May 2012 #19
Yeah, their land.... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #20
No land was being taken prior to the wars of 1948.... shira May 2012 #21
But they did not have the right Ken Burch May 2012 #30
Do you hear yourself? They did not have the right.... shira May 2012 #31
The Palestinians weren't against Jews living in Palestine Ken Burch May 2012 #32
It wasn't up to them. The Turks allowed Jews to live throughout the mideast.... shira May 2012 #42
The issue with Jerusalem is EAST Jerusalem, not ALL of Jerusalem Ken Burch May 2012 #33
Both Hamas and the PA are calling for all Jerusalem.... shira May 2012 #43
No, it isn't, and yes, you're wrong. Ken Burch May 2012 #8
It's only about being dispossessed? shira May 2012 #11
If they had been allowed to return, without retribution, after the war was over Ken Burch May 2012 #13
Oh stop it... shira May 2012 #14
Of course I knew there were two wars Ken Burch May 2012 #34
Yes, and the first was a civil war. And you cannot understand why Israel was reluctant... shira May 2012 #41
They could at least have let the oldest come back. Ken Burch May 2012 #44
Ken, a few posts back you said that Israel should have let all refugees back in.... shira May 2012 #45
Very interesting article LeftishBrit May 2012 #18
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