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In reply to the discussion: Trump proposal to ban Muslims from US relies on debunked poll from pro-Israel think tank [View all]starroute
(12,977 posts)11. If you don't like Mondoweiss, have some Echidne
http://www.echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2015/12/first-ban-all-muslims-donald-trump.html
Here is the summary of the survey, and here are the cross-tabulations with some abbreviated forms of the questions it used. I went through everything so that you don't have to, but, really, always verify.
When someone presents a poll or a survey which is supposed to reflect the average opinions of some wider group the first thing you should ask if it actually represents those opinions. This particular survey fails to pass that test. The reason is simple: It was an Internet convenience survey, not a survey which made an effort to get a representative sample of all American Muslims into the study.
We don't know if the people who self-selected into the survey are roughly the same in their opinions as American Muslims, on average. We don't even know if the respondents are Muslims! I am not saying that they aren't. Simply that we have no way of knowing, and neither do we have any way to tell how representative the views in the survey are of all Muslims in this country.
Here is the summary of the survey, and here are the cross-tabulations with some abbreviated forms of the questions it used. I went through everything so that you don't have to, but, really, always verify.
When someone presents a poll or a survey which is supposed to reflect the average opinions of some wider group the first thing you should ask if it actually represents those opinions. This particular survey fails to pass that test. The reason is simple: It was an Internet convenience survey, not a survey which made an effort to get a representative sample of all American Muslims into the study.
We don't know if the people who self-selected into the survey are roughly the same in their opinions as American Muslims, on average. We don't even know if the respondents are Muslims! I am not saying that they aren't. Simply that we have no way of knowing, and neither do we have any way to tell how representative the views in the survey are of all Muslims in this country.
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Trump proposal to ban Muslims from US relies on debunked poll from pro-Israel think tank [View all]
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
OP
I don't believe the poster is supporting Mondoweiss or Trump, the poster is just saying
LiberalArkie
Dec 2015
#2
Oh I think that poster does support Mondoweiss, he posts most of the garbage they produce there,
King_David
Dec 2015
#18
Frank Gaffney in Israel, Part 6: Tel Aviv from Judea & Samaria - actually there are 7 parts
azurnoir
Dec 2015
#3
You stated Gaffney and his think tank has nothing to do with Israel I showed you that indeed they do
azurnoir
Dec 2015
#19
No kidding, and he does have support from and is connected to Israel's causes.
Jefferson23
Dec 2015
#8
Israel is a predominately right wing government ideology regarding the occupation and a peace deal.
Jefferson23
Dec 2015
#10
They point out hypocrisy regarding Israeli policy. I/P has many bigots respresented
Jefferson23
Dec 2015
#17
Not a good idea for anyone to rely solely on opinion pieces but it happens, sometimes I think
Jefferson23
Dec 2015
#39
The Zionist Organization of America gave the Brandeis Award to Ted Cruz last year
oberliner
Dec 2015
#31