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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:31 PM Dec 2015

Debunking the 3 D’s of Israeli hasbara – distortions, diversions and defamations [View all]

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/distortions-diversions-defamations

On November 27, 2015, a meeting was held in downtown Vancouver, Canada under the title “First Nations & Palestinians at the Frontline of Resistance” organized by the Seriously Free Speech Committee and supported by another 10 community groups (of which Canada Palestine Association-Vancouver was one). On the day of the meeting, the local Zionist apologist paper the Jewish Independent ran an editorial “Co-opting history”, full of the Israeli Hasbara 3 D’s – Distortions, Diversions and Defamations.

Their editorial stated: “The obvious intention is to equate the history of colonial settlement in North America, Canada in particular, with the actions of Israel toward Palestinians.”

Wrong. The editorial conveniently refuses to recognize the Zionist project as settler colonialism, and therefore will not acknowledge that the intention was to draw parallels between settler colonialism in North America and Zionist settler colonialism in Palestine, in addition to exposing “the actions of Israel toward Palestinians”.

The editorial went on to claim: “The concept is flawed at its core, of course, because, as the Palestinian narrative often does, it portrays the Jews as colonial occupiers of Arab land, while denying the legitimacy of ancient and modern claims to the Jewish homeland.”
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More... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #78
To be fair 6chars Dec 2015 #80
Wow. What garbage. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #88
Great Post King_David Dec 2015 #89
How are you still posting articles from Mondoweiss? oberliner Dec 2015 #2
what is ridiculous is the hijacking of virtually every ProPeace anti-occupation thread posted azurnoir Dec 2015 #6
NO !!! King_David Dec 2015 #11
this is getting rather tired but here once again for ninth time is Rabbi Lerner refuting Rosenberg azurnoir Dec 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Dec 2015 #26
you really outdid yourself with this one. Mosby Dec 2015 #3
that's not what the article says - some of us actually read stuff ya know here is what is said azurnoir Dec 2015 #5
your propoganda isn't working Mosby Dec 2015 #8
Antisemitic filth .... King_David Dec 2015 #10
The Forward NYT and Haaretz all verified Weiss's remarks azurnoir Dec 2015 #16
Straight people do not get to tell Gays what isn't Homophobic ( some try) King_David Dec 2015 #29
Please there was nothing about homophobia there azurnoir Dec 2015 #31
That post was not about homophobia. nt King_David Dec 2015 #32
you used it as your title line the rest of your post was assumptions azurnoir Dec 2015 #33
The only thing that can be said is that my brilliant argument King_David Dec 2015 #34
whatever you say azurnoir Dec 2015 #35
Oh I got it alright.. King_David Dec 2015 #90
what did you get? state it clearly please azurnoir Dec 2015 #94
No, they didn't. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #91
isn't it also true that if we were to go along strict Halachic law it is the Matriarchal line not azurnoir Dec 2015 #93
Not really. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #95
I notice the switch off between culture, DNA and religion as needed even in a single post azurnoir Dec 2015 #96
What do you mean? Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #97
and what exactly is Palestine? azurnoir Dec 2015 #98
WRT what? Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #99
again context is everything azurnoir Dec 2015 #100
I'll admit, you lost me here. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #101
well you seem to do exactly what Weiss complains about-conflate Jews and Zionist azurnoir Dec 2015 #102
of course I did. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #103
Yet another antisemitic article from Mondoweiss King_David Dec 2015 #9
and Rabbi Michael Lerner refuted MJ Rosenbergs remarks azurnoir Dec 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Dec 2015 #25
Lots of self deletes lately. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #73
since you love to sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #4
Oh, I have no idea which ones are paid vs those R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #13
then who are the oens sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #21
There is no chance anyone talking about,or posting articles about Jewish Bloodlines,could possibly King_David Dec 2015 #46
I would prefer to have sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #55
Thou doth protest too much. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #58
reading through the thread it seems there could be example(s) azurnoir Dec 2015 #7
No kidding. Some are working round the clock R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #12
The 3-Ds are alive and well in this thread. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #14
The article is filth. Here you go, say this loud & clear for the admins.... shira Dec 2015 #15
Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #19
Jewish Women's Genes Traced Mostly to Europe — Not Israel R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #20
So say it. What are you waiting for? n/t shira Dec 2015 #23
A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #37
Genetics Expert Insists 75% of Jews Share Roots in Middle East shira Dec 2015 #27
Sure. Like the bible. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #28
Yes. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #92
If Weiss had said this of Mizrahi Jews your outrage would be understandable and well placed azurnoir Dec 2015 #22
Mizrahi Jews could marry converted women of the mideast going back centuries......so? shira Dec 2015 #24
Weiss did not say European Jews were not Jews he said European Jews were not azurnoir Dec 2015 #30
What's really laughable is this Jewish "bloodline " thing you're obsessed about . King_David Dec 2015 #36
Why does such obsession with the "Jewish bloodline" give me the willies? 6chars Dec 2015 #38
well why don't you tell us why it gives you the willies azurnoir Dec 2015 #41
The willies come from the claim that since Ashkenasi Jews aren't racially pure.... shira Dec 2015 #53
It is like a stalker sniffing your underwear 6chars Dec 2015 #72
Pathetic.... King_David Dec 2015 #45
Supremacy has nothing to do with genetics. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #47
" being racially unpure." King_David Dec 2015 #48
You'd expect to see this type of talk on Storm Front, not a Democratic forum. grossproffit Dec 2015 #49
Exactly King_David Dec 2015 #50
The supremacists have this problem with R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #51
Do you personally believe most Ashkenasi are racially impure & thus.... shira Dec 2015 #52
There is no purity or impurity, there is only genetics... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #56
So Ashkenasi have no claim to a Jewish homeland in Israel due to genetics? n/t shira Dec 2015 #59
If an Ashkenazi wants to consider themselves racially pure, R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #62
Do you agree with the author? Mosby Dec 2015 #61
I;m not the one running up and down here going about Weiss's statement being antisemitic filth azurnoir Dec 2015 #39
If it's not antisemitic filth, you should have no problem agreeing that since.... shira Dec 2015 #54
You are becoming unhinged with your buzzwords, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #57
You're deflecting. Do those genetics disqualify Ashkenasi from a Jewish homeland in Israel? shira Dec 2015 #60
Oh, I never deflect when I see you becoming unhinged. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #69
Gee, you just did it again. You can't answer a simple question. shira Dec 2015 #75
... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #83
are you trying to threaten me ? azurnoir Dec 2015 #63
Whatever you say, dave. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #40
This is the only thing anyone needs to know about the article and the entire conflict. aranthus Dec 2015 #42
+1 King_David Dec 2015 #43
THIS!!! grossproffit Dec 2015 #44
All you need is one paragraph to make the OP racist. Little Tich Dec 2015 #64
Agreed King_David Dec 2015 #65
agreed except it is in part the DNA connection that forms the basis of the claim not only to Israel azurnoir Dec 2015 #66
I don't agree with the arguments in the OP in general, but that doesn't really matter. Little Tich Dec 2015 #67
were it not for the factor I mentioned I would agree wholeheartedly azurnoir Dec 2015 #68
Its all laughable nonsense anyhow azurnoir..... Israeli Dec 2015 #70
Who can really play the "I'm racially pure" game anyway. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #74
No one here is playing that game. It's your article that brings up racial purity. n/t shira Dec 2015 #76
Actually, you are doing that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #84
Only the racist author of that Mondoweiss OP you posted is doing that. shira Dec 2015 #85
If anything, the author proves that the three Ds R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #86
How can you possibly say "agreed" ???? King_David Dec 2015 #71
I think she's waiting for 1 of us to agree w/ her first before she calls it racist shira Dec 2015 #77
Hardly you will never agree this comment says it all azurnoir Dec 2015 #82
I have no idea what connection you're trying to make. shira Dec 2015 #87
I defended the DNA study that you condemn, really you need to read the comment you're replying to azurnoir Dec 2015 #81
What's racist about bringing Jordan into an I/P discussion? shira Dec 2015 #79
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