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In reply to the discussion: Trump is no more racist than mainstream Israeli policy [View all]Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)83. I'm familiar with Adalah.
Unfortunately, aside from a few glaring examples of obvious discriminatory legislation, I didn't see most of their points as especially relevant. For example:
Absorption of Discharged Soldiers Law
Description: According to this June 2008 law, any registered university or college student who has completed his or her military service and is a resident of a designated National Priority Area such as the Naqab (Negev), the Galilee, or illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank will be granted a compensation package including full tuition for the first year of academic education, a year of free preparatory academic education, student housing benefits, and others.
This benefits package adds to the already extensive educational benefits package enjoyed by discharged soldiers in Israel. Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel are exempt from military service and are thus excluded from receiving these state-allocated benefits.
Description: According to this June 2008 law, any registered university or college student who has completed his or her military service and is a resident of a designated National Priority Area such as the Naqab (Negev), the Galilee, or illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank will be granted a compensation package including full tuition for the first year of academic education, a year of free preparatory academic education, student housing benefits, and others.
This benefits package adds to the already extensive educational benefits package enjoyed by discharged soldiers in Israel. Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel are exempt from military service and are thus excluded from receiving these state-allocated benefits.
The idea here is that because Palestinian-Israelis aren't forced to serve they are ineligible for these benefits. Of course, Arabs aren't barred from serving and then receiving these benefits, they just aren't required to.
Most of the examples in the MW article are antiquated and no longer apply. If we're looking at discriminatory laws from the 40s, 50s and 60s we hardly have to go to Israel in order to be appalled. It bears mentioning that these were the years immediately following the war of independence; fought between the same Jewish and Arab populations now living together.
That said, I'm not implying that a lack of institutionalized discrimination exists, or that as a democracy it isn't flawed by it's prioritizing Jewish nationalism. I just read an interesting paper that talks about this subject by Sammy Smooha that you should look at.
http://img2.timg.co.il/communafiles/32398285.pdf
WRT the idea that citizenship in other democracies comes without institutionalized racism, I don't see how you could possibly think that. For example, just recently in Alabama, the state legislature voted to require DMV ID in order to vote, only to then shut down half of the DMV offices throughout the state; the ones located in areas with large minority populations, as it would happen.
I'm not sure that a real difference exists between the rights afforded to Israeli minorities versus those in places like America.
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Oh, a lot of Palestinians who are muslim would like to return after being kicked out in 47-48.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#5
And their progeny. After all the expulsion is still an expulsion for all of them, right?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#16
They ought to be granted automatic citizenship in the newly created Palestinian state
oberliner
Dec 2015
#18
Obviously, you only know the Leftist definition of apartheid and not the real world one.
aranthus
Dec 2015
#44
Seems all supporters of Israel are dubious individuals unworthy of rational discourse.
shira
Dec 2015
#64
Well, shak. It has something to do with a matter you don't undetstand.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#73
In a fully democratic country, rights are granted without regards to ethnicity.
Little Tich
Dec 2015
#80
Some Jews claim that their link to the land of Israel goes back a long time, way before 1948.
Little Tich
Dec 2015
#82
I think Israel should be judged by its most discriminatory laws, or perhaps the sum of them.
Little Tich
Dec 2015
#84
Have you not read the antisemitic filth about Jewish bloodlines, posted here ?
King_David
Dec 2015
#34
It's genetics, dave. Everybody has genes. Genes tell where your ancestors came from...
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#35
So you're suggesting that ahem...Democratic Israel is as bad as some right wing theocratic kingdoms?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#4
Israel has a different relationship with many Muslim countries than the US does
oberliner
Dec 2015
#13
"Similarly, with respect to immigration, Israel has explicitly from its creation been defined
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#15
you keep posting the same Tikkun link as though it's new the one Rabbi Lerner refuted
azurnoir
Dec 2015
#12
Only a moron would believe that Netanbooboo is to the left of anything.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2015
#37
Like I wrote, I know & you know you can't name even 1 well known anti-Zio BDS-hole.....
shira
Dec 2015
#50
Trump is an anti-semite as well as a follower of other forms of racism.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2015
#59
No, I have been following with the biggoted anti-semite racist has done.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2015
#61