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AnotherMcIntosh

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209. If hostility against Jews and Jewish organization is anti-semitic, what do you call Jewish
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:25 PM
Nov 2012

organizations that advocate for Palestinian rights in Palestine?

Do you call them anti-semitic?

If not, why the exception?

How do you feel about Israel ? orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #1
Bull-fucking-SHIT! MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #2
Amen to that! railsback Nov 2012 #37
Well, I think JoDog Nov 2012 #135
which Hamas coddling threads please link us to some azurnoir Nov 2012 #146
Haven't seen any of those railsback Nov 2012 #174
Joe u should be living in gaza lsewpershad Nov 2012 #203
So, am I mistaken or is Israel holding Judaism hostage? DetlefK Nov 2012 #133
Israel's gov't is just our badly behaved punk cousin who has to be bailed out again. To point that leveymg Nov 2012 #227
Israel is ethnicly cleansing Palestine because they want the land. Deep13 Nov 2012 #3
Nah, they just want to harvest Palestinian organs and use the blood in matzos. shira Nov 2012 #7
You've spent that nickle already. Deep13 Nov 2012 #100
shira...stop. You're embarassing yourself. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #200
Israel left Gaza and is not claiming the land ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #8
Umm... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #154
So why lsewpershad Nov 2012 #205
Do you even hear yourself speaking? holdencaufield Nov 2012 #23
No, I don't talk when I'm typing. Deep13 Nov 2012 #99
Israel has already done that ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #102
I believe this guy. Deep13 Nov 2012 #107
Very few people go to the Middle East to "find facts" ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #114
Do you know Dr. Hixson? I do. Deep13 Nov 2012 #195
I believe this guy ... polly7 Nov 2012 #116
It's sad for both peoples ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #153
Your perogative, I guess. nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #197
That's not true either. The six day war was a flexing of Israeli muscle. PDJane Nov 2012 #226
Where is Hamas getting their bombs and rockets? Kolesar Nov 2012 #130
When you look at US history did you ever sop to ask where the Colonials R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #160
So you don't want to talk about it Kolesar Nov 2012 #169
Sounds like you are having the trouble, not me. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #179
Behold, the "twitchy leftist" Kolesar Nov 2012 #185
When the colonies during the American Revolution were fighting for their R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #213
I suspect Iran and Russia. Deep13 Nov 2012 #196
It all goes back to the cold war where Israel was R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #214
Excellent article - thanks for the link. n/t Raksha Nov 2012 #225
Now that is purely 2naSalit Nov 2012 #206
There are no settlements in Gaza oberliner Nov 2012 #24
Are the people of Gaza free like other normal people in the world, to come sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #30
+1000 great post. N/t cire41 Nov 2012 #38
There are no checkpoints in Gaza oberliner Nov 2012 #43
I am aware of that. But my question, which I should have made more clear sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #51
Gaza borders two countries, Egypt and Israel oberliner Nov 2012 #57
Thank you. I do watch Al Jazeera and other foreign media. I was referring sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #68
Still, the past restrictions Egypt put in place on Gazans leaving and entering Gaza Ken Burch Nov 2012 #219
+1000 great post King_David Nov 2012 #192
And answer to your question concerning Gaza holdencaufield Nov 2012 #85
Thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #235
Israel is her own worst enemy. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #161
Israel's actions cause antisemitism? oberliner Nov 2012 #194
And I call Bullshit! Now tell me about the West Bank and what is going on there with teddy51 Nov 2012 #36
It's not Bullshit. It is indisputably factual. oberliner Nov 2012 #45
You people are great at rerouting the subject! I asked about the West Bank, not Gaza. You fuckers teddy51 Nov 2012 #47
You people? oberliner Nov 2012 #60
No, the discussion is not about Gaza the discussion is about Palestine vs Israel and what land teddy51 Nov 2012 #70
You're assuming Hamas can be mollified by negotiations. They're perfectly clear.... shira Nov 2012 #125
It is my understanding Peregrine Nov 2012 #115
ah winner keepers losers pound sand is that it? I see azurnoir Nov 2012 #118
In 1967, Israel attacked. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #163
Except... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #261
So then... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #279
But, but, but, there are no settlements in Gaza. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #157
There aren't oberliner Nov 2012 #164
Strange you ignored my question to answer your own. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #175
Huh? oberliner Nov 2012 #186
Yes, i'm sure that the giant graphic was just too painful to see and it took forever to load. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #198
Hebron is particularly repulsive. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #162
Why do you think so? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #281
There's no room. It's about the size of DC, and has damn near twice as many people leveymg Nov 2012 #55
You are wrong oberliner Nov 2012 #59
My larger point is valid. I said it's an overcrowded walled refugee camp that's not worth leveymg Nov 2012 #64
Israel made a trade of sorts azurnoir Nov 2012 #101
It's not overcrowded, it's not a refugee camp, and it's not walled oberliner Nov 2012 #128
You can argue those points with the authors of this report: 2/3 of Gaza are refugees leveymg Nov 2012 #131
Nothing in that report disputes what I have written oberliner Nov 2012 #136
What is the difference between a city with 2/3 refugees and a refugee camp? What is the difference leveymg Nov 2012 #139
Quite a lot actually oberliner Nov 2012 #141
I believe it was Dov Weisglass who infamously called the "disengagement" plan ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #165
This is a decades-old effort. Deep13 Nov 2012 #97
Confiscated land OregonProg Nov 2012 #113
Changing definitions and Graphical Lies holdencaufield Nov 2012 #119
It's still theft OregonProg Nov 2012 #123
It's only theft ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #124
I truly believe that you are either being willfully blind R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #217
Thanks for posting those maps you guys. 2naSalit Nov 2012 #207
Except... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #250
Exactly ann--- Nov 2012 #86
Israelis must suck ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #120
Wow. I love stunning ignorance spewed with righteousness. aquart Nov 2012 #180
Not that long ago, Israel was open to Palestinians. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #232
"Unfortunately, there are those that are so blinded by their hate of Israel". teddy51 Nov 2012 #4
+1000 orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #5
There was even more hate prior to Netanyahu during OCL... shira Nov 2012 #6
Sorry, but I see some of you as "Poor me, please feel sorry for me) and forget what we do in teddy51 Nov 2012 #9
Israel made a serious move to peace 7 years ago with the Gaza withdrawal.... shira Nov 2012 #11
Consult Dov Weisglass if it was a move towards peace. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #168
Opposing the Gaza withdrawal, which you're doing due to Israel's "evil" intent..... shira Nov 2012 #171
I'd like to entertain your straw man ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #172
Who cares what he said? Does he force Hamas to fire rockets at Israel.... shira Nov 2012 #176
Tsk, tsk. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #188
Who cares what he said? Nobody that is apparently falling all over themselves R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #218
I'm sorry, Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #252
Indeed. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #25
Intifada 2 .... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #167
Intifada 2 was the Palestinian response to a fair peace deal... shira Nov 2012 #177
There was no fair peace deal offered. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #187
What you said. How dare this OP try to use that old and no longer effective sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #32
"that tactic has the exact opposite effect" holdencaufield Nov 2012 #89
That was my point. Thanks for getting it. I doubt making people angry sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #90
You're angry at Israel for not ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #92
You're not very good at putting words in other people's mouths. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #121
"What does an oppressed, imprisoned people (Hamas) do to get the rest of the world's attention" shira Nov 2012 #40
A question for you: What did those Turkish people onboard that boat do to warrant there deaths? teddy51 Nov 2012 #42
You mean the IHH? Turkey accused them recently of having ties... shira Nov 2012 #48
And have you listened to Turkey's PM about this event? No, I doubt you have cause everything is teddy51 Nov 2012 #52
The same Turkish PM responsible for far worse WRT Kurds? Syria's Assad shira Nov 2012 #65
"What did those Turkish people onboard that boat do to warrant there deaths?" holdencaufield Nov 2012 #122
Hang on a second. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #254
And perhaps we do and that is 2naSalit Nov 2012 #210
Which Israeli political figures do you like? oberliner Nov 2012 #46
Not my call, that belongs to the Israeli people. How about a leader that truly wants to make teddy51 Nov 2012 #49
Well you don't like the call they made with Netanyahu (nor do I) oberliner Nov 2012 #61
Like I said, I'm not an Israeli citizen and don't get to vote there or make that call. teddy51 Nov 2012 #66
You get to have an opinion oberliner Nov 2012 #69
Tzipi Livni fits my bill, but what chance does she have? teddy51 Nov 2012 #81
Livni? Here's a headline and story for you... shira Nov 2012 #91
The sad thing is - she won the most votes last time! oberliner Nov 2012 #129
I would like to see the Labor party guy(sorry can't remember his name) Get back in power. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #50
Barak? Peres? n/t shira Nov 2012 #67
Barak. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #71
Really Barak is Israel's current Minister of Defense and the one in charge of this show azurnoir Nov 2012 #96
He works for BIBI.Oh my I should pay more attention. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #98
The sad truth is this when it comes to Palestinians there is little light between azurnoir Nov 2012 #106
Thanks for the good post. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #202
well written, well argued. well done. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #152
No it isn't... deathrind Nov 2012 #10
The OP is spot on. Hamas rockets provoke a yawn by the haters. shira Nov 2012 #12
I condemn... deathrind Nov 2012 #28
You condemn the rockets but then give the justification for them... shira Nov 2012 #41
The settlement issue... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #257
it's only 'complex' to those attempting to obfuscate azurnoir Nov 2012 #276
You know what I love? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #277
know what I luv weasel words and oh the British mandate ended over 65 years ago azurnoir Nov 2012 #282
Well, in the real world... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #286
yes well we'll just have to wait and see what the ICC/ICU decides huh? azurnoir Nov 2012 #288
Do you mean the ICC or the ICJ (not the ICU?) Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #291
The killing of over 140 Palestinians, more than half of them innocent sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #33
Oh, the "Israel is bloodthirsty" argument? shira Nov 2012 #44
No, I don't think the Israeli people do, but there leaders certainly have no problem with teddy51 Nov 2012 #54
Who do you think carries out the orders of the government? The IDF.... shira Nov 2012 #72
So tell me about the boat that you guys boarded and killed innocent people on then! Your not teddy51 Nov 2012 #87
IHH terrorists who are BFF with Hamas and connected to al-Qaeda.... shira Nov 2012 #88
That's good, keep repeating these absurd statements Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #13
So remind me, where were you the past 4 years since OCL... shira Nov 2012 #18
I was here, observing some propaganda troll bot endlessly recite stale talking points Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #19
You were quiet. Am I wrong to assume you were quiet.... shira Nov 2012 #22
You would not be correct in assuming anything; you're just not good at it.. *nt Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #27
This may sound strange, but do you realize you are not helping Israel's sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #34
"IF" fighters are hiding in civilian neighborhoods? Hamas boasts about it... shira Nov 2012 #62
And I have seen footage of Israelis using Palestinian children as shields sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #73
So going back to your "if" scenario... shira Nov 2012 #75
That's the question the whole world is asking 'where are the adults sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #84
I'm no sure what you think is going on over there. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #280
shira's mission here is to excuse Palestinian civilian casualties azurnoir Nov 2012 #80
That charge is pretty funny considering your mission here seems to be to demonize shira Nov 2012 #126
Or what evidence is presented to you of Israel's indifference to suffering.... kayecy Nov 2012 #127
"Israel has killed and injured far more innocents than Hamas could dream of." JoDog Nov 2012 #137
Hamas will......Aren't you being a little too presumptious?..... kayecy Nov 2012 #138
Hamas refuses to recognize Israel JoDog Nov 2012 #145
Hamas' sworn intent to kill the Jews is irrelevant to the "human rights community" shira Nov 2012 #166
You are repeating yourself.............. kayecy Nov 2012 #173
Untrue... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #258
With the weapons they had....... kayecy Nov 2012 #268
Incorrect. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #271
Do all Israeli cities contain nothing but civilians?........ kayecy Nov 2012 #273
Why are you playing devil's advocate for Hamas? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #278
The devil's advocate or someone who can see there are two sides?.... kayecy Nov 2012 #285
The devil's advocate. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #287
I would very much like to hear your “strong ethical argument” favouring Palestine over the US...... kayecy Nov 2012 #289
You'll get it then. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #290
"BACK" to Palestine?.....That's not an ethical argument........... kayecy Nov 2012 #292
OK, I see what you're saying. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #293
Thank you for considering each of my points in detail, but........ kayecy Nov 2012 #294
My ethical argument... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #296
For the same reason that the US, Argentina or Australia would have rejected it........ kayecy Nov 2012 #298
Pot, meet kettle. Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #134
no because you've shown nothing but hearsay and opinion I originally asked for evidence charges from azurnoir Nov 2012 #143
I quoted B'tselem and you ignored them... shira Nov 2012 #159
No you did not quote B'tselem you claimed that and you were busted which is why no link azurnoir Nov 2012 #183
Btselem's quotes that you're ignoring/denying are right here at these links... shira Nov 2012 #190
Big difference. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #259
Ah did you trot that stuff back out -again azurnoir Nov 2012 #74
Pretty sick defending Hamas' use of shields. shira Nov 2012 #76
I have questioned MEMRI more than once and that very same video within the past 24hrs azurnoir Nov 2012 #82
What makes you think the translation in this video is misleading? A hunch? n/t shira Nov 2012 #94
no MEMRI's record of biased translation coupled with Israeles propaganda program to make azurnoir Nov 2012 #104
Do you distinguish between ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #14
This isn't about the people vs. their government. shira Nov 2012 #16
My question has everything to with "The People" versus "their Government" ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #140
BTW ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #15
Over 90% of Israel's Jews agree with the military operation. shira Nov 2012 #17
You sound so proud about that. ...nt TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #31
It's b/c they really feel there is no other choice. n/t shira Nov 2012 #77
That is very sad if true. I was giving the Israeli people a pass on these sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35
The Israeli people aren't in favor of attacking women and children shira Nov 2012 #78
You can't say 'we are not in favor of killing women and children' when sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #93
So your solution meanwhile is for Israelis to lie back, enjoy the rockets... shira Nov 2012 #95
'Relax, the rocket fell on an Arab village' azurnoir Nov 2012 #242
Wow, disgusting comment, seriously. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #272
true that but it was an Israeli government radio announcer who said it n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #274
Terrible logic ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #39
Your néed to respond to every post makes you look mentally unstable abelenkpe Nov 2012 #56
".. the Jewish State, alone amongst the nations of the world" OneMoreDemocrat Nov 2012 #20
Absolutely ! Anything that keeps Israel from stealing...er jaysunb Nov 2012 #21
Fail. Care to try another? eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #26
If I was an Iranian Cynicus Emeritus Nov 2012 #29
After witnessing our invasion and decimation of Iraq, with israeli encouragement, why the hell Purveyor Nov 2012 #53
Israel had nothing to do with our invasion of Iraq. There were a lot of countries who supported still_one Nov 2012 #110
Israel To U.S. Don't Delay Iraq Attack, Sharon Government Urges Prompt Action Against Saddam - CBS Purveyor Nov 2012 #142
My point was the U.S. was doing regardless, and other western countries did the same bullshit. It still_one Nov 2012 #144
My statement was clear. I said "with israeli encouragement". eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #147
They did not do it because of their encouragement or any other countries encouragement. They did it still_one Nov 2012 #148
We shall just have to disagree then. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #149
ok. still_one Nov 2012 #191
Indeed nt abelenkpe Nov 2012 #58
FWIW: The jury results are in. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #63
Bullshit. n/t Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #79
No, it isn't ann--- Nov 2012 #83
How about strong Israel dislike? defacto7 Nov 2012 #103
I don't hate Israel. roody Nov 2012 #105
Israel is a terrorist nation! leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #108
Bullshit. The argument might be made that the US did, but not Israel, but while you are at it why still_one Nov 2012 #112
Not true about Egypt. LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #221
suit yourself. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2012 #109
The OP is a load of bunk.. GitRDun Nov 2012 #111
No it is not! intaglio Nov 2012 #117
Genius marketing ploy of an immoral regime Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #132
It's somewhat Stalinesque, isn't it? Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #158
Israelis and Palestinians are both Semetic peoples. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #150
Yes, because the mightiest state in the Middle East is a poor victim. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #151
So let's say a chunk of Mexico (or Canada) is given to terrorists who launch rockets to the USA PuppyBismark Nov 2012 #155
Learn the history, puppy. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #156
Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #170
So the UN partition means nothing. aquart Nov 2012 #182
I didn't say that Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #184
Agreed. LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #222
Good luck getting them to admit it. aquart Nov 2012 #178
Not true. I am anti Zionist right wing crazy Israelis, I am not anti Israel or an anti-Semitic. OregonBlue Nov 2012 #181
another article from the same 'progressivezionist' site azurnoir Nov 2012 #189
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #193
That's right...this so-called "progressive" magazine says that anyone who is Israeli or Jewish Ken Burch Nov 2012 #201
Disagreement with Israeli security policies is NOT "Israel hate". Ken Burch Nov 2012 #199
Is Paestinian Hate Anti-Semitic? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #204
Is Palestinian Hate Anti-Semitic? Nope... King_David Nov 2012 #208
If hostility against Jews and Jewish organization is anti-semitic, what do you call Jewish AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #209
an·ti-Sem·ite (nt-smt, nt-) King_David Nov 2012 #211
You do realize not every organization that advocate for Palestinian rights in Palestine.. King_David Nov 2012 #212
You have it wrong. In contrast to you, I have never claimed that any organization that advocates AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #215
The term anti semite applies to Jews. King_David Nov 2012 #216
I saw this the other day, kinda interesting Mosby Nov 2012 #224
Yes I agree, King_David Nov 2012 #231
It is disingenuous and used to "deflect" from the discrimination against Jews. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #233
Arabs are Semites. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #240
Are you going to argue that anti-Semitism is discrimination against Arabs? Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #241
Language is fluid, and definitions change with time, usage and cultural reference. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #243
As BTA said only some people 'usually deflecting from "Jew hatred" King_David Nov 2012 #244
Hmmm. Ain't gonna happen. Check any dictionary. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #245
I studied languages for years. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #246
It appears as if you do need a lesson in fluidity; R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #247
No, I really don't and especially not from you. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #248
Seemingly you still do. And if you don't want to read it then put me on ignore. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #249
No, I really don't, but you certainly need some. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #251
As I said, you can always put me on ignore and dig your heels in to the end of time. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #255
And if you want to play word games, you will get called on it again and again. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #256
I thought that you and your provincialism were going away. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #263
But this word is not one of them. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #283
No; but it could be Islamophobic LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #223
"a term coined by antisemites"? Actually, the German-Jewish scholar Moritz Steinschneider in AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #234
True about not all Palestinians being Muslims (and not all Israelis are Jews).. LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #236
I have no idea as to whether Marr popularized the term. I know that many now use the term to AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #238
spreading that bigotry out among multiple terms that way it's harder to pin down azurnoir Nov 2012 #253
Maybe check out this excellent post to help you with your confusion, King_David Nov 2012 #237
there is no confusion and there is no denial of bigotry against Jews either azurnoir Nov 2012 #260
Nothing's changed King_David Nov 2012 #262
King D stomps his foot in proclamation. "Nothing's changed!" R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #264
This is a tired and boring argument. King_David Nov 2012 #269
Well, you're free to go away then and dig your heels in someplace else. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #270
everything changes n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #275
Wrong. Hayabusa Nov 2012 #220
Actuallyl . . . last I checked, mzteris Nov 2012 #228
I love my Jewish friends Xipe Totec Nov 2012 #229
Awful, awful argument LibAsHell Nov 2012 #230
my thoughts exactly dlwickham Nov 2012 #239
Does criticism of Israel = Israel hate to you? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #265
It's sad. polly7 Nov 2012 #266
It's become an easy song and dance to perform to shut up R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #267
Did you notice how no one answered your original question? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #297
Horse shit. Hating a government's actions doesn't equal hating its people TeamsterDem Nov 2012 #284
Lovely straw man argument... I think the leaders screw up, so I must be a Nazi... bobclark86 Nov 2012 #295
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