Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: UK raises concerns over Israel's treatment of Palestinian children [View all]Violet_Crumble
(35,954 posts)I'm strongly suggesting to you that you need to read some books on Palestinian society, because it's a rich and complex one full of many positives, and anyone who paints it as a bunch of antisemitic maniacs who are akin to the Nazis has no knowledge of what they're talking about...
It's inteersting that you bring up the subject of firing people for bigoted views. I don't recall that the Israeli government ever fired the guy they sent over here as ambassador, who promptly engaged in a speech ranting about how Israelis and Australians were 'white people' and should fight against those damn Asians
No, what you don't seem to be grasping is that quite a few of those 'pro-Israeli' sites you cite are bigots themselves. Look at Barry Rubin, who's clearly an anti-Muslim bigot, and the article you posted here that contained obvious anti-Muslim sentiment. They can go for their lives shovelling out supposed 'evidence' of what a society is, but the problem is the same as when it's done to Israelis - it's very easy to engage in selective blindness and take one specific thing and build it up into a mountain where it becomes the entire society....
As to yr last paragraph, hypocrisy is when someone repeatedly posts articles from anti-Muslim bigots and when asked about it claims something along the lines of they're not reading them for the stuff they don't agree with, but for that last two sentences in the fourth paragraph. Given that you do tend to fling around accusations of antisemitism as though there's a dollar earned for each one, and good folk such as that Arab/American comedian who's name escapes me, a Holocaust survivor, and Robert Malley from International Crisis Group have all been labelled as people engaging in antisemitism (notably with no explanation as to why in each case), it's a whole different ballgame when it comes to anti-Muslim bigotry. Then the net becomes so narrow that it's only if Robert Spencer at Jihadwatch says something along the lines of 'all Muslims must die' that it qualifies as bigotry....
Debating? All I'm interested in doing is supplying anyone who reads this exchange with actual information about Palestinian society, as opposed to the 'they're murderous antisemitic Nazis!' crap. And for anyone onlookers, one book I'd strongly recommend to give some background and depth is Baruch Kimmerling's 'The Palestinian People: A History' as a good starting point. Of course, there's those who prefer their visions of Palestinians in that one-dimensional Romney way, and for those folk, there's no point reading anything....