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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
18. Seems to me that's not the question.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:41 PM
Feb 2016

>>>But in the end it doesn't much matter who got there first.>>>>

It's not a question of chronology.

It's a question of principle.

OP makes a scattered case that Sanders wavered in his support for "gay marriage" at various points in time for .... what the article itself describes as........ essentially *tactical* reasons. ( "Not right now." Not after what they'd , i.e. Vermont had "just been through.&quot

Nowhere... not in the article OP links to, nor anywhere else.... does he provide a link or a quote that indicates that Sanders.... UNLIKE CLINTON... was philosophically and ideologically opposed to marriage equality. Ever.

"I believe marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman." Clinton said it, apparently believed it ( maybe still does but won't say it out loud.) and reiterated it periodically.

Sanders said nothing of the kind, as far as I know. Ever. ( Hence the request for a link.)

OP.... whether he/she realizes it or not... is putting forth a false equivalency argument.

Read your own quote nichomachus Feb 2016 #1
They both evolved dbackjon Feb 2016 #2
That is false. Fearless Feb 2016 #12
"not right now" is very different from "never, because marriage is between man and woman" Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #7
Thanks for posting this dlwickham Feb 2016 #3
Did he actually state what your title indicates that he said? If so, can you provide link, please? xocet Feb 2016 #4
It's right there in the OP dbackjon Feb 2016 #5
Sorry. That is not what the text in the OP reads. Please provide a link to Sen. Sanders saying xocet Feb 2016 #6
Did he say "Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman." Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #8
It's right there in the link dbackjon Feb 2016 #9
He DID NOT. He supported PRESERVING MARRIAGE EQUALITY IN MASSACHUSETTS Fearless Feb 2016 #11
States rights is a right wing argument dbackjon Feb 2016 #14
States rights is the argument the LGBT movement used to protect itself Fearless Feb 2016 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #21
This is false. Fearless Feb 2016 #24
Unfortunately it is your argument that is hard to understand, because it doesn't hold up. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #28
So because "States Rights" are bad, we should let the feds arrest medical & recreational pot smokers Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #29
Jesus fucking Christ how many times do I have to explain this fucking statement??? Fearless Feb 2016 #10
You were clueless you have no idea what was going on into thousand six we'd already gotten married t dbackjon Feb 2016 #20
That is false. Fearless Feb 2016 #23
I was opposed to DOMA, having helped organize just a few years before Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #34
Does it matter that much when people "evolved?" Bagsgroove Feb 2016 #13
And that was my point dbackjon Feb 2016 #15
Bernie did not oppose equal rights for lgbters. Fearless Feb 2016 #17
He most certainly did dbackjon Feb 2016 #19
False. Fearless Feb 2016 #25
Seems to me that's not the question. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #18
I'm mostly with you here, I think Bagsgroove Feb 2016 #22
The latter quotation comes from a debate he had in Vermont and his response given Fearless Feb 2016 #26
I miss Unrec n/t Hydra Feb 2016 #27
That's what I was just about to post. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #30
Perhaps you didn't notice HassleCat Feb 2016 #31
Pushing this garbage spin again I see m-lekktor Feb 2016 #32
This is a thinly veiled failed attempt at a hit piece... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #33
Wow. 33 replies. I haven't seen this sleepy little nook get so worked up since.... Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #35
This type of lying revisionist history is just makes me and my generation (X/Y) support Bernie more LostOne4Ever Feb 2016 #36
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