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cyclonefence

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17. JF has written about her low self-esteem
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:58 PM
Sep 2018

When she was married to Roger Vadim (he directed her in Barbarella) and she was very young, a teenager I think, he was very critical of everything about her body. If you've seen Barbarella, she's in a skin-tight catsuit for the whole movie, so any imperfection would be hard to hide (esp. in those old days without CGI). And of course her whole childhood was spent among actors, notoriously shallow and absorbed in their looks, so she really never had a chance.

My attitude toward her should be more pity and compassion, I know, but she really did lie over and over about how she would never have plastic surgery and that she maintained her perfect body through exercise and diet. So many flabby women in the 70s believed her and subsequently wondered what was wrong with them, that they couldn't achieve the same results. It was kind of a mind-fuck on Jane's part. She helped perpetuate her own low self-esteem through the thousands of women whose self-esteem she damaged.

I think Lily Tomlin is gorgeous. I think Jane Fonda looks plastic and a little ridiculous for her age--Cher is the same way. I adore her, and she was beautiful--still is, if she'd let herself be--but the mask that her face has become is a little frightening.

For the record, I'm 71 and I treasure my many wrinkles and age spots and even my saggy body. It's all evidence of the fun I've had living my life and I would never want to lose my souvenirs.

Grace & Frankie is the greatest !!!! [View all] donkeypoofed Sep 2018 OP
I fell off the couch when Frankie was pnwest Sep 2018 #1
Love, love, love that show! Pacifist Patriot Sep 2018 #2
There's something wrong with me cyclonefence Sep 2018 #3
Think I am between you and OP. Liked it at first, then Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #6
I did like it at first cyclonefence Sep 2018 #10
Jane is playing the Grace character exactly as she should TexasProgresive Sep 2018 #9
Except that when Jane Fonda appears in public cyclonefence Sep 2018 #11
I guess you just don't like Jane Fonda TexasProgresive Sep 2018 #12
Oh that's offensive cyclonefence Sep 2018 #13
Sorry, I just have trouble with people judging people by appearances. TexasProgresive Sep 2018 #14
Oh, don't worry about it cyclonefence Sep 2018 #15
I was just talking to a coworker about Jane and her PS TexasBushwhacker Sep 2018 #16
JF has written about her low self-esteem cyclonefence Sep 2018 #17
Oh, I'm with you on the pity and compassion TexasBushwhacker Sep 2018 #18
Yes it is. I was sad when I finished watching it. Phoenix61 Sep 2018 #4
Grace & Frankie Resist160 Sep 2018 #5
I really enjoyed it up until the last couple of episodes. Luciferous Sep 2018 #7
Laugh out loud funny. llmart Sep 2018 #8
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