Gun Control & RKBA

Loudly

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21. You could have stopped with the observation that

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:18 AM

Apr 2013

"a criminal used a gun to rob people."

Access to a gun is where this story commenced before the curtain even went up.

Everything which happened afterward, despite your sense of justice and public safety about it, is kind of an empty victory.

A lot of risk and disruption and emotional and physical pain just to finally recover the thing which was a danger in and of itself to indulge whatsoever in the hands of the public.

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Suspect Robs Family at Miami Burger King, Then Man Shoots Him: Police [View all] Paul E Ester Apr 2013 OP

Not only is this a guns-as-solution-to-guns story Loudly Apr 2013 #1

removing guns doesnt mean something like this wouldn't happen with other weapons bossy22 Apr 2013 #3

Repeat: This story doesn't happen. Loudly Apr 2013 #4

No, without a gun, no one gets shot. Straw Man Apr 2013 #32

Apparently he's one of the chosen few. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #41

Hammers at ten paces? nt rdharma Apr 2013 #6

Sure. Hammers can kill. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #63

How would you suggest Jenoch Apr 2013 #8

Treat them like we treat child pornography. With intolerance. Loudly Apr 2013 #11

there would be no call to ban cameras gejohnston Apr 2013 #12

The contraband is the thing which is dangerous in and of itself. Loudly Apr 2013 #13

not how it works gejohnston Apr 2013 #15

Contraband and contraband. Loudly Apr 2013 #17

guns sole purpose is to kill - cameras have a purpose other than porn DrDan Apr 2013 #26

A camera records an image of whatever is in front of it. petronius Apr 2013 #29

play with your rhetoric all you like - the purpose of a gun is to kill DrDan Apr 2013 #30

The purpose of a camera is to capture images kudzu22 Apr 2013 #64

you are making the "good" vs "evil" claim - not me DrDan Apr 2013 #65

You're implying that all killing is evil kudzu22 Apr 2013 #66

you are just reading into my posts what you want to read - I know there DrDan Apr 2013 #69

but an individual using a gun for defense is what? gejohnston Apr 2013 #70

is it good or evil? DrDan Apr 2013 #71

since the trial hasn't happened yet gejohnston Apr 2013 #72

agree - however the truth seems to often be stretched to justify "necessity" DrDan Apr 2013 #75

not in the police investigation gejohnston Apr 2013 #80

Killing isn't always bad. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #67

I never claimed it was DrDan Apr 2013 #68

That was your implication. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #73

well - you know what "assume" means - and I appreciate you not putting words in my mouth DrDan Apr 2013 #74

So is the solution to child pornography to ban digital cameras? spin Apr 2013 #23

almost right Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #27

I should have said, "banning digital cameras with a tripod or an external flash." (n/t) spin Apr 2013 #38

You don't need to own a camera or have access to children Loudly Apr 2013 #31

So do you feel all guns are evil? ... spin Apr 2013 #37

So you reserve the right to engage in armed rebellion. Loudly Apr 2013 #45

Yup, you're Shares. Straw Man Apr 2013 #48

Look inward, friend. Why do you walk the earth? To advocate convenient murder? Loudly Apr 2013 #50

I look inward daily, friend. Straw Man Apr 2013 #51

I'm not alerting on that blatant name calling. Loudly Apr 2013 #52

You're not alerting ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #55

You called me names. Ignorantly, I might add. Loudly Apr 2013 #57

Not frustrated. Straw Man Apr 2013 #58

I understand that you want to clear the field of opposing arguments. Loudly Apr 2013 #59

why zombie instead of reincarnate? gejohnston Apr 2013 #53

Wouldn't a more effective analogy equate the images to a corpse? Bazinga Apr 2013 #39

Contraband. Straw Man Apr 2013 #33

"Just make guns and ammo generally unavailable." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #9

Wasn't it you who used to pipoman Apr 2013 #14

Do you think this story supports an argument favoring guns and ammo in the hands of the public? Loudly Apr 2013 #16

I don't think it is a very good arguement against it.. pipoman Apr 2013 #19

You could have stopped with the observation that Loudly Apr 2013 #21

So a criminal without a gun is no threat to others? pipoman Apr 2013 #22

Begone, zombie. Straw Man Apr 2013 #35

Can I use this when I respond to Loudly/Shares United going forward? CokeMachine Apr 2013 #42

Feel free. Straw Man Apr 2013 #44

The father neither stopped the robbers nor captured them...gun immaterial JoeBlowToo Apr 2013 #28

Zombie. Straw Man Apr 2013 #34

That's the Shares that I know and love!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #40

The person who would have been the next victim of this criminal probably appreciates it fredzachmane Apr 2013 #60

No doubt. But it sounds very much Loudly Apr 2013 #61

Hear's guessing the robber ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #2

You mean a dozen bystanders weren't mowed down in the process? sylvi Apr 2013 #5

I "LOVE" Tarantino movies! holdencaufield Apr 2013 #10

Check out the donut shop scene in "Boogie Nights." Loudly Apr 2013 #18

I guess they ended up going to Krispy Kreme that night. sylvi Apr 2013 #20

Yes. Straw Man Apr 2013 #36

Sounds like you're entirely familiar with the scene to which I refer. Loudly Apr 2013 #46

Begone, zombie. Straw Man Apr 2013 #47

If you're out of arguments, I'll take that as admission of defeat. Loudly Apr 2013 #49

I already gave the arguments the last time ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #54

This is your fallback? Movies? AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #62

What, can't you read???? Revanchist Apr 2013 #24

Very good!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #43

that's awesome. Good for him. nt bubbayugga Apr 2013 #7

what's not to like? quadrature Apr 2013 #25

I've been to that Burger King. No more. mia Apr 2013 #56

"headed for the door" HockeyMom Apr 2013 #76

I was about to ask the same thing. If the robber was headed toward the door, how was he madmom Apr 2013 #77

I doubt SYG would apply if the suspect was leaving. kudzu22 Apr 2013 #78

has nothing to do with Florida's SYG gejohnston Apr 2013 #79