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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:55 AM

9. no link disconnect

dscntn: ...or do I have that wrong? Is there something else here I've missed?

Quite. Dunno what you thought you proved, or accomplished, outside of hoisting yourself (& your 2ndA mythology) on your own petards.

no link dscntnt: 'A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

in fuller context, & with the deletion: (GW): A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies. The proper establishment of the troops which may be deemed indispensable will be entitled to mature consideration -First Annual Address (8 Jan 1790).

A further quote sometimes purported to be from a speech {above} to Congress, Jan 7, 1790 purportedly in Boston Independent Chronicle, Jan 14, 1790, this is actually a corruption of a statement made in his first State of the Union Address, relating to the need for maintaining governmental troops and military preparedness: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Washington
.. et tu, guncite?: And yet another bogus Washington quote: A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and..

no link dscntnt: .. it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and.. - Richard Henry Lee

Lee's speech in fuller context, speaking of need for citizens militia (& against select militia): .. the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia, by providing that the militia shall always be kept well organized, armed, and disciplined, and include.. all men capable of bearing arms; and that all regulations tending to render this general militia useless and defenceless, by establishing select corps of militia that we must have a select militia; .. These corps, not much unlike regular troops, will ever produce an inattention to the general militia; and the consequence has ever been, and always must be, that the substantial men .. will generally be without arms, without knowing the use of them, and defenceless; whereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Henry_Lee

Geez, this OP is sophomoric, so easy to refute, you & all who back-patted should be ashamed for trying to pull wool over reader's eyes. Post some links on the others. Like Pat Henry, duh. How many times you gonna post these canards before you recognize them for what they are?

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