Gun Control & RKBA

sarisataka

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4. Some good ideas...

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:52 PM

Sep 2013

-misuse leads to suspension, much like DL. Though the analogy of licensing guns and cars is a somewhat flawed comparison it is one of the best we have.

-forfeiture for willful misuse seems consistent with current views on disqualified persons

-I would make broad categories for gun types rather than each individual firearm. Mostly a revolver is a revolver, a bolt action is the same... Safety training could have expiration dates so a new purchase after x years since training requires a retake of that course

-I think we have the laws re: child safety, they are just ridiculously variable in enforcement. The safety around minors should be part of the training, laws enforced and the suspension/forfeiture above invoked when a minor gets access to a gun

-I do not know if the training needs to be annual, but it should be reinforced through the school years. I do not see why it cannot be incorporated into fire and home safety already taught. We only need to teach how to avoid accident and injury, not create marksmen

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Why not start here... [View all] sarisataka Sep 2013 OP

Get rid of the dealer requirement and family member requirement bossy22 Sep 2013 #1

Ideally it would be open to the public sarisataka Sep 2013 #3

Frog in a hot pot technique clffrdjk Sep 2013 #20

I do believe there are some GC groups sarisataka Sep 2013 #23

Hope you are right gejohnston Sep 2013 #26

Since I am wishing for a rainbow and a unicorn... sarisataka Sep 2013 #27

Well, the unicorn among us may appear... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #34

Agreed, good points sarisataka Sep 2013 #50

That is the dynamic I see with the NRA. It has become too successful... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #55

It's a tough row to hoe. Maybe it's not so tough with people in the real world. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #2

Some good ideas... sarisataka Sep 2013 #4

This part "use in a violent act" could be used to outlaw legal defensive use of a firearm. oneshooter Sep 2013 #21

Great point. We would definitely have to refine the language to exclude defensive uses. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #22

I get that universal background checks are the "low hanging fruit" of gun restriction proposals Pullo Sep 2013 #5

The baggage sarisataka Sep 2013 #10

Well, I can agree to a point. Pullo Sep 2013 #18

Some of this is tired language: I don't see UCB as "gun control" but Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #35

The concept of UBC is a good one. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #6

There is a natural tendency sarisataka Sep 2013 #12

I like the purchase "permit" sytem gejohnston Sep 2013 #7

There are systems out there sarisataka Sep 2013 #11

it isn't about guns, gejohnston Sep 2013 #15

Compromise... sarisataka Sep 2013 #24

Registration is the fly in the ointment. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #8

So true sarisataka Sep 2013 #13

If the ACLU was serious about their objections to the early Manchin-Toomey Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #37

I would welcome the ACLU to join in sarisataka Sep 2013 #49

I feel your pain. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #9

I believe a few small steps would be a nice beginning sarisataka Sep 2013 #14

Full auto pieces only cost more because of the NFA registry. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #16

UBC and registration are a logical first step mwrguy Sep 2013 #17

How many more logical steps follow the first and why? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #38

He is a gun banner. Wants to ban pump shotguns. oneshooter Sep 2013 #40

When you hear "First step..." You have the measure of someone. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #41

That's a pretty solid clue, certainly petronius Sep 2013 #44

I wonder if the higher ups at DU share the.same outlook? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #46

I give kudos to some in our companion group sarisataka Sep 2013 #48

I hope so. I welcome your ideas and plan of action. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #51

I haven't worked hard at drafting legislation in a very long time sarisataka Sep 2013 #53

Twitter and website gejohnston Sep 2013 #54

I would expect that crap from the NRA. But if the alternative is good enough, that will be Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #56

Navy Yard shooter had a "secret" security clearance. jeepnstein Sep 2013 #19

Mental health and NICS need some changes no doubt. Pullo Sep 2013 #25

Frankly, mass shootings are a diff breed of cat compared to the drone of violent crime. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #39

good gopiscrap Sep 2013 #28

I appreciate this thread, sarisataka. Rational, mature. I wish others could find it in their heart NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #29

I have hope still sarisataka Sep 2013 #30

I think any workable proposal has to be gejohnston Sep 2013 #31

I agree with your arguments. Any legislation will have to Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #42

thanks, had to make a couple of edits gejohnston Sep 2013 #45

No, and I hope he doesn't any crappy songs about the 7 seals. Animals deserve better. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #47

Change that "7days of a theft" to "7 days of the discovery of a theft". GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #32

The discovery issue is two edged sarisataka Sep 2013 #33

I thought that I had lost a 20ga shotgun last week. oneshooter Sep 2013 #36

Raining here, too (finally). Should sleep well tonight. Hope you are well. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #43

I've had that moment of panic sarisataka Sep 2013 #52

It is somewhat of a scary feeling ain't it. oneshooter Sep 2013 #57

sounds good Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #58

Open NCIS to the public Riftaxe Sep 2013 #59