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jimmy the one

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24. Read it & weep, 2ndA mythology exposed
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014

corroborated by pew res (see previous post).


http://www.researchscape.com/leisure/us_gun_ownership_over_time

Last week the National Opinion Research Center released its biennial update to the General Social Survey. This showed an increase to 34% of U.S. households owning guns in 2012, up from 32% in 2010 (sample size: 2,000 face-to-face and telephone interviews Mar to Sep, 2012). Despite this short-term upturn (too small to be statistically significant), a key trend that was picked up in reporting by The NY Times was the long-term decline in household gun ownership rates over the 40-year history of the survey. Ownership in the 1970s averaged 50% declining to 36% from 2000-2009.



Gallup is the outlier despite the fact that two of the other questions are more expansive than Gallup’s: the NORC asks if the gun is in the home “or garage” (for those living in houses), while Pew asks about “guns, rifles or pistols”. While Republicans are more likely to own guns than Democrats (according to the General Social Survey, 50% of Republicans own guns vs. just 22% of Democrats), and Gallup last year had a Republican house effect of 2.5 points, that would adjust Gallup’s estimate only down to 42%.



What does the chart sarisataka Dec 2014 #1
I know you folk hate that chart so I put it up...... even though it is totally unrelated to gun control. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #2
I do dislike the chart sarisataka Dec 2014 #4
It is a disingenuous chart hack89 Dec 2014 #8
It is so in your face true and irrefutable and horrible it is hard to say much, I get it. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #9
It shows a steadily declining murder rate hack89 Dec 2014 #10
OP fails to adjust for population growth, deceptive chart shows only total deaths. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #16
"not perfect" = "flawed"? Straw Man Dec 2014 #3
The Anti-Cilvil liberty folks.. virginia mountainman Dec 2014 #6
LOL I wonder when all the "flawed" data.. virginia mountainman Dec 2014 #5
guns don't have rights....as progressives we need to support basic human rights. ileus Dec 2014 #7
Apparently, deaths by both have been falling. That's very good news. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #11
Now I know why you hate charts, you can not read them! Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #14
Do some math. Are those deaths per 100,000 or total deaths? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #15
Not just hard, it's really nuts discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #34
The headline seems to overstate what Pew actually 'admitted' - it's not a perfect petronius Dec 2014 #12
Rights are not subject to opinion polls. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #13
PEW: US Gun Death Rates roughly HALF what 1993 Rates were. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #17
A per capita chart and a whole numbers chart are not tweaks, they are different charts. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #18
Wow you really need help with statistics, don't you? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #19
Well then you should speak to a mod about the article as you describe it, is there one around? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #20
You're very coy. We don't have mods and your graph is crap. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #21
More from PEW: Good news, progress for progressive gun rights supporters! From the OP sources! NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #22
gun ownership rates declined along with gun homicide rates jimmy the one Dec 2014 #23
The ownership numbers are suspect. People unlikely to self-report ownership, distrustful of Gov. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #25
In 1973 when the survey was taken that showed 49% of people had a firearm in their ... spin Dec 2014 #29
lying skills demonstration jimmy the one Jan 2015 #37
Are you accusing Spin of lying? Of being on drugs or alcohol? GGJohn Jan 2015 #38
freedom of spitch jimmy the one Jan 2015 #40
You don't have freedom of speech on a private website. GGJohn Jan 2015 #42
lying skills demonstration, demonstrated jimmy the one Jan 2015 #45
Sorry, but the only weird logic here is yours if you think you have freedom of speech on this site. GGJohn Jan 2015 #46
alive & well jimmy the one Jan 2015 #51
at least the RKBA side Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #54
sanctuaries can be created jimmy the one Jan 2015 #55
As I said before Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #56
I rarely lie but I do spin. (n/t) spin Jan 2015 #50
Eh? Straw Man Jan 2015 #43
Laughable. Utterly laughable. beevul Jan 2015 #47
I really think he does believe the bull execrement he's shoveling here. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #48
nixon in 1971, on revolvers & handguns jimmy the one Jan 2015 #52
It sounds like the main difference... beevul Jan 2015 #53
Our of curiosity where were you living in 1950s ... spin Jan 2015 #49
Read it & weep, 2ndA mythology exposed jimmy the one Dec 2014 #24
My post above puts your little claims to shames, Jimmy. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #26
PS, what are the self-reported rates for illicit drug ownership? Kinky porn ownership? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #27
Notice how gun fun men reject all facts, which are all facts, contrary to their set in metal beliefs, Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #28
Like the OP sarisataka Dec 2014 #30
The OP is quite willing to accept poll results without question- when he *agrees* with the results: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #36
Notice how Gallup survey shows 2014 has lowest number of "no guns in home" reponses in 20 years? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #31
You mean now today ownership is higher than in 1983, and many recent years also, that "trend"? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #32
No, I mean the Gallup survey shows 2014 has lowest number of "no guns in home" reponses in 20 years. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #33
So gun PURCHASES are UP while gun HOUSEHOLDS are DOWN Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #35
switch to semi autos jimmy the one Jan 2015 #39
Snarkiness aside. GGJohn Jan 2015 #41
"Guns are being sold more & more to the same gun owners." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #44
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