Gun Control & RKBA

RandySF

(58,723 posts) Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:33 AM Jun 2015

What kind of weapon kills 9 people in a few seconds? [View all]

And does it belong in the hands of civilians?

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What kind of weapon kills 9 people in a few seconds? [View all] RandySF Jun 2015 OP

It's a weapon of war in our streets. Many who post here have no problem with that. villager Jun 2015 #1

A lot of people want a totally deregulated "wild west" delrem Jun 2015 #3

A lot of otherwise smart people here are blindered on this issue by the NRA villager Jun 2015 #4

The "I only target shoot" crowd should be easily won over to reason. delrem Jun 2015 #7

They're not. Many are posting tonight that it's a "culture war" villager Jun 2015 #8

I don't know what "gun culture" means. delrem Jun 2015 #9

You know what "gun culture" means everytime you hear of nine people snuffed out in mere seconds villager Jun 2015 #10

Oh come on. Nobody is posting favoring that. delrem Jun 2015 #12

We will need your good wishes. villager Jun 2015 #13

I say again: target shooters and honest hunters ought to be within reach of reason. delrem Jun 2015 #15

In the US, there is a prohibition lobby gejohnston Jun 2015 #43

In the US there is a *proliferation* lobby villager Jun 2015 #49

update gejohnston Jun 2015 #55

Here's what I don't understand: Saviolo Jun 2015 #58

no gejohnston Jun 2015 #60

For a taste of what "gun culture" means, google "gun wedding" and then click "images." tblue37 Jun 2015 #78

Kinda puts it in perspective Starboard Tack Jun 2015 #86

Oh, let's talk gun culture (but not race). Is that the ticket? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #46

It's the degree to which racists are steeped in gun culture... villager Jun 2015 #50

Racists are often indivisible from violence, esp. Bombs & Ropes. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #51

And guns. villager Jun 2015 #52

Only one instrumentality seems to interest you. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #53

You were quite interested in omitting it. villager Jun 2015 #54

Maybe because there are far greater concerns than instrumentality? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #56

Only for those in denial about how critical the instrumentality is in these massacres villager Jun 2015 #57

Oh, denial deshmial. BTW, do you think the Deacons for Defense had it wrong? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #82

Ask her family: villager Jun 2015 #83

I asked you. I think your action is called... deflection? nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #84

Deflection? Projection on your part. Listen, as much of a good guy as you are in other threads... villager Jun 2015 #85

Serious competition target shooter here, and no need to win me over. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #37

If I may, in all this talk of "culture," we should recognize the U.S. & Canada are 2 separate ones Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #48

We have big problems in this society, and you want to talk gun bans? Lord. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #47

Americans don't have a right to unregulated access to firearms either hack89 Jun 2015 #25

correction gejohnston Jun 2015 #74

Not true. delrem Jun 2015 #75

I watched the trial gejohnston Jun 2015 #76

It's the "ZOMG MODERN LOOKING RIFLES ARE A HUUUUUGE THREAT" crowd that are the science deniers. benEzra Jun 2015 #32

Good questions. More good questions (I think): merrily Jun 2015 #2

If our leaders cared enough, things could happen BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #5

Was it an AR-15? BainsBane Jun 2015 #6

And handguns are used much more often than an AR-15 in shootings, GGJohn Jun 2015 #11

My point was a question and an observation BainsBane Jun 2015 #14

How do you expect to be taken seriously with filthy strawmen like this: pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #16

Some virulent collective guilt-tripping is more equal than other virulent collective guilt-tripping friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #18

"If only you all cared as much about human life as your precious guns" friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #17

As long as you (disgustingly) feel the need to draw political mileage from this tragedy....... pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #19

You're misrepresenting the pro-gun position. Per usual. beevul Jun 2015 #20

Does waving that bloody shirt get tiring after a while? hack89 Jun 2015 #23

Well it is in the actual Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #63

Jury results -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #64

"Can you not answer the question? " hack89 Jun 2015 #66

Someone is under the impression... beevul Jun 2015 #68

Jury Results oneshooter Jun 2015 #70

Apparently not BainsBane Jun 2015 #81

And not even close to being correct Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #62

Actually, it's not. benEzra Jun 2015 #30

the point was not homicides BainsBane Jun 2015 #33

And what kind of gun was used in the worse school shooting in US history? hack89 Jun 2015 #40

I doubt it was an AR or any kind of rifle gejohnston Jun 2015 #41

Not in mass shootings, either. benEzra Jun 2015 #42

Then you'll enjoy my thread on that topic krispos42 Jun 2015 #65

From reports, not the gun used in SC. But these are meddlesome details, no? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #44

Unlikely krispos42 Jun 2015 #59

Appears not Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #61

No, it was a handgun of 104 year old design, with 7 round mags. N/T beevul Jun 2015 #71

As far as I know, it's never been said any better discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #73

Very possibly a pump shotgun. beevul Jun 2015 #21

it would be a far shorter list of the ones that can't. krispos42 Jun 2015 #22

The same firearm is used by police and civilians to protect lives all the time. ileus Jun 2015 #24

He has no problem Shamash Jun 2015 #26

Any number of firearms could. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #27

a bomb? alc Jun 2015 #28

The kind that's three times less deadly than malpractice. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #29

"Church carry" could've prevented this Matrosov Jun 2015 #31

maybe not prevented... ileus Jun 2015 #34

It will take longer sarisataka Jun 2015 #35

I don't know Shamash Jun 2015 #36

Would you deny worshippers the right to be armed in church? nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #45

On the other hand... beevul Jun 2015 #72

pistols used in the Olympics and World Cup could gejohnston Jun 2015 #38

A pistol first made 104 years ago. nt hack89 Jun 2015 #39

Do we know for sure it was a 1911? aikoaiko Jun 2015 #67

By all accounts so far, it was a 1911 beevul Jun 2015 #69

This Is a Little Delicate The Roux Comes First Jun 2015 #77

According to the witness, he reloaded at least five times, benEzra Jun 2015 #80

Colt Model 1911 45 caliber semiautomatic hand gun mikehiggins Jun 2015 #79