Gun Control & RKBA

TupperHappy

(166 posts) Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:47 AM Jul 2015

FORMER CNN ANCHOR: ‘NOTHING TO DEBATE,’ HAVING A GUN SAVED MY LIFE [View all]

On July 8, former CNN anchor Lynn Russell wrote a column for Fox News in which she recounted the alleged June 30 attack and attempted robbery she survived because her husband won a gunfight.

She said, there is “nothing to debate” on guns. Rather, the clear lesson is that having a gun saved her life.

On the night of the 30th, Russell opened the door to the motel room so she could go to the car and get food for their dog. She detailed what happened next:

The armed guard patrolling the second floor was engrossed in a phone conversation, instead of checking the parking lot. I unlocked our door, picked up the food I’d placed at my feet and was assaulted by a jackass with a big, silver semi-automatic weapon. He shoved me into the room. I was airborne and landed on the bed. He shut the door and stood behind it, gun on me, debating his next move.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/08/former-cnn-anchor-nothing-to-debate-having-a-gun-saved-my-life/

162 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

FORMER CNN ANCHOR: ‘NOTHING TO DEBATE,’ HAVING A GUN SAVED MY LIFE [View all] TupperHappy Jul 2015 OP

Ah, linking to Breitbart. "Nothing to debate," indeed. villager Jul 2015 #1

Villager, as you may well know, the only significant power in the gun control outlook... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #3

Congrats on actually discussing the thing, E38, though of course we profoundly disagree villager Jul 2015 #4

Even the CDC concedes there are 200,000+ SD uses of firearms. I imagine some women are in that Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #6

That must be why Breitbart's beloved GOP congress keeps banning CDC research on guns: villager Jul 2015 #12

No ban on CDC research. It just can't advocate a political stand, which is what it was doing. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #16

A "political stand" as defined by the GOP and NRA... villager Jul 2015 #35

If you bothered to check the CDC's actual mission statement, "advocacy" is not part of it. Shamash Jul 2015 #40

Glad to see you've internalized the NRA talking points! villager Jul 2015 #63

In what way is the truth an NRA talking point? Shamash Jul 2015 #64

"Fear and funding shortfalls remain at the CDC, even though the agency was ordered to resume firearm villager Jul 2015 #65

Did you miss the 150 page report by the CDC in 2013? Shamash Jul 2015 #67

This is the problem when one shoe horns guns into a public health model... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #56

Ban on CDC research? The media is suppressing the latest CDC findings....... pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #62

Better rush to tell your GOP/NRA allies then! villager Jul 2015 #85

Ah, the "NRA Boogeyman". blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #91

Um, the first refuge for you and your fellow travelers, inasmuch as you support their position. villager Jul 2015 #92

Um, no. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #93

They're your allies in this debate, yes? villager Jul 2015 #95

Nice deflection. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #110

Nice deflection. villager Jul 2015 #122

No deflection. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #126

Continued deflection. villager Jul 2015 #127

Nope. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #128

It's not a changed subject when you support the NRA's position. villager Jul 2015 #129

Nope. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #130

Yup. You're still wrong. villager Jul 2015 #131

Got that well poisoned yet? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #138

Do you ever tire of being wrong? blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #142

Link please. mikeysnot Jul 2015 #151

Massive logic failure. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #148

Massive presumption villager Jul 2015 #150

How I love it when you spew your infantile/dishonest statements villager! pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #152

When all you have is nothing......hurl falsehoods. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #147

In the description of how the encounter began OakCliffDem Jul 2015 #44

How cute. Now the gun lovers are using vile Breitbat as a source! Feel the Bern, 320 million guns Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #2

Are you voting for Bernie? Just curious. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #7

When do the voting booths close? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #9

Bernie is the gun owners candidate hack89 Jul 2015 #17

Okay everyone, save Fred's post as a bookmark Shamash Jul 2015 #39

Fred is correct rock Jul 2015 #86

Yep, and I'll quote -you- too Shamash Jul 2015 #89

Fred is full of cr*p. Tell us, wise one, why you think that the media is pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #98

Well, you got me on that one rock Jul 2015 #115

Not surprising that you're not informed. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #146

Done. NT pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #99

I first saw this story on that conservative bastion TeddyR Jul 2015 #76

How does HuffPo work for you wiseguy? This was a *WIDELY* reported incident. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #108

A link for those who do not believe the sun rises in the east if an unreputable source says it Shamash Jul 2015 #5

Another one for the first two commenters: Genetic fallacy friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #21

Firearms are designed to save/protect lives. ileus Jul 2015 #8

Designed to save/protect lives from those who have guns packman Jul 2015 #10

Oh that's right....I forgot only firearms are used in crimes. ileus Jul 2015 #13

Uh, no. Firearms are designed to kill. villager Jul 2015 #11

Mine were designed and are used to protect life. ileus Jul 2015 #14

Ah, so you do the "no-kill" kind of hunting with your specially designed guns. villager Jul 2015 #15

Nope we harvest with the hunting firearms. ileus Jul 2015 #18

God - that hunting crap packman Jul 2015 #22

We normally try and harvest enough ileus Jul 2015 #23

One wonders if you'll get a reply containing the same venom and bile...directed against fishing. beevul Jul 2015 #25

I just renewed my Va license a few minutes ago. ileus Jul 2015 #27

So this "harvesting" would be "killing" with the guns which are designed for killing efficiently... villager Jul 2015 #36

No not so much... ileus Jul 2015 #43

Ok... so the archery equipment is designed for killing/"harvesting," but guns... aren't? villager Jul 2015 #46

Hunting isn't killing. ileus Jul 2015 #47

The deer's still alive at your table? villager Jul 2015 #66

Mine is alive as the veggies are Shamash Jul 2015 #68

You're the one that needs to bone up on basic definitions. villager Jul 2015 #69

Harvesting kills things, hunting kills things Shamash Jul 2015 #70

Well, you're not a "predator," of course, much as you like to puff yourself up that way villager Jul 2015 #71

And how is their -purpose- relevant to the discussion? Shamash Jul 2015 #72

Well, we're not predators in that there's no purpose in an ecological niche for our imbalanced villager Jul 2015 #73

In that case Shamash Jul 2015 #74

But guns were made to be efficient killing machines. ARPAnet could be applied to other purposes. villager Jul 2015 #75

You're dodging the question again Shamash Jul 2015 #83

Actually, *you* are dodging the question. villager Jul 2015 #84

You have me mistaken for someone else Shamash Jul 2015 #87

That's why I choose not to support industrialized meat production. villager Jul 2015 #88

A deer lasts a while. Plenty of time to insult the clueless. And you still dodge the question. n/t Shamash Jul 2015 #90

Ah well, at least you're not even *pretending* to have any competency for conversation now. villager Jul 2015 #104

Harvesting surplus deer population blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #111

If putting me on ignore helps you dodge answering genuine questions on the issue Shamash Jul 2015 #113

Well, blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #114

My guns are applied to competitive target shooting hack89 Jul 2015 #141

Where I live deer are overpopulated Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #30

If only people could learn to be more in tune with nature. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #33

I will take a wilderness full of wolves and bears, thanks, rather than your knuckleheaded brethren villager Jul 2015 #77

Bears and wolves will kill on impulse. Humans have the ability to choose their actions. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #96

You funny. So humans with guns are better for wilderness than bears and wolves, eh? villager Jul 2015 #97

As I stated, quite factually, humans get to choose their actions. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #100

So, again, you're saying: wolves and bears are "bad," and gun owners are "good." villager Jul 2015 #103

"...wolves and bears are "bad..."? Please. Is a wolf "bad" when he takes down a dear? jonno99 Jul 2015 #105

That's a pretty lame straw man argument. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #107

Uh, no. Though your "self-control" meme is kind of an interesting one for a proliferationist. villager Jul 2015 #124

You seem determined to deliberately misstate my arguments even after you've been corrected. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #145

Ok. Good start. Then please figure out the rest of my argument. villager Jul 2015 #149

They don't exist anymore JonGeb Jul 2015 #102

How many people were killed during the shooting events at the last Olympics? Shamash Jul 2015 #20

30,000??? at least that's what I'm always told so it must be true. ileus Jul 2015 #24

Lord, what a Non Sequitur packman Jul 2015 #42

I'm not the fool making blanket statements on what a gun is designed for Shamash Jul 2015 #45

That isn't the Olympics gejohnston Jul 2015 #48

What's wrong with killing rapists, murderers, robbers and other assorted violent criminals? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #19

What's wrong with keeping guns out of their hands? villager Jul 2015 #38

Less than 6% of rapists use a gun. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #41

So you're for introducing guns into the equation in the remaining 94% of the situations? villager Jul 2015 #121

Oh, pity the poor rapist who finds himself confronted by an armed victim. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #123

Nice strawman. villager Jul 2015 #125

because pepper spray often does not work gejohnston Jul 2015 #132

So -- a waved gun in a panic situation will always end better than using pepper spray? villager Jul 2015 #133

"will always end better than using pepper spray?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #135

Well, it figures you have unquestioning trust in who cops are shooting these days villager Jul 2015 #154

"it figures you have unquestioning trust in who cops are shooting these days" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #156

No, although you did call me a misogynist, so you do have a fondness for "conflation" villager Jul 2015 #157

So far in this thread, you've used 'poisoning the well', the associational fallacy, and... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #158

Friendly, though you make sense in other threads, you never do in gun threads villager Jul 2015 #159

The gibes of the politically ineffectual carry little to no sting friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #160

I use terms like Controller and Grabber because gun control is about control. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #161

simply pointing out a fact gejohnston Jul 2015 #136

the old west situation is posited by you villager Jul 2015 #155

such duels didn't happen either gejohnston Jul 2015 #162

Wow, sexist much? Telcontar Jul 2015 #153

It's not a straw man if you, in fact, refuse to acknowledge the right to self defense. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #134

By all means, keep the guns out of their hands... beevul Jul 2015 #120

Uh, no, GGJohn Jul 2015 #49

My hats off to her bluestateguy Jul 2015 #26

Military style automatic weapons have been banned since 1986. Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #31

I'm astounded that anyone could have a problem with this post tularetom Jul 2015 #28

Breitbart, Fox and guns...makes sense randys1 Jul 2015 #29

LOL - you mean before Breitbart & Fox existed (or the NRA for that matter), jonno99 Jul 2015 #78

The question you regurgitate about women is from the vile NRA! But you already knew that. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #80

"NRA Talking Point" blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #81

This OP has nothing to do with the NRA. This woman & her husband were attacked. jonno99 Jul 2015 #82

wow the obvious is always ignored by the gun lovers bowens43 Jul 2015 #32

Are you asserting nobody ever commits a crime unless they have a gun? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #34

And how exactly do you propose to get criminals to adhere to this ban? Shamash Jul 2015 #37

That member will never answer you GGJohn Jul 2015 #50

...^ that 840high Jul 2015 #53

Bad source. I dont doubt some have gotten themselves out of a jam by having a weapon but Breitbart Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #51

how about this one? gejohnston Jul 2015 #52

We need someone to step up and help to prevent the Roof's from having guns in their possession. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #54

I wish I had a solution, gejohnston Jul 2015 #55

Solution is found in Australia. In Canada. All over. Not complicated. But you already knew that. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #116

We're all still waiting breathlessly to hear what you are doing to make any of that happen DonP Jul 2015 #117

I'll be blunt-most gun control advocates *are* slacktivist keyboard commandos friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #140

This is my most recent attempt discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #57

I know we have plenty of knowledgeable and capable gun owners who belong to gun groups who could Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #58

for gangs it is simple gejohnston Jul 2015 #59

Drugs war = bizarre rabbit hole of insanity discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #60

Some positive ideas: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #61

oh my! Kali Jul 2015 #79

Imagine if the robber had not been able to get a gun in the first place. SheilaT Jul 2015 #101

He was much larger and stronger, gejohnston Jul 2015 #106

Imagine Prohibition actually working. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #109

Here's a thought, imagine dealing with the reality of what really happened? DonP Jul 2015 #112

Just like Dylan Roof would not have had a gun if there was just a longer waiting period or more resources. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #118

Horse Apples. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #119

You'll have to forgive ol' Fred. He can't hear you. He's put democracy on Ignore. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #137

"He's put democracy on Ignore." <golf clap> friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #139

Yup. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #144

A gun doing what it was designed to do....Save Lives...Who'd ah thunk it. ileus Jul 2015 #143