Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:51 AM Jul 2015

Americans Don't Have the Right to Bear Just Any Arms [View all]

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Let’s start with an undeniable truth: In the United States, the people have the right to keep and bear arms. And let’s then acknowledge that the childish interpretation of that constitutional amendment—that Americans have the right to whatever accessory they can put on, in or over a gun for the sole purpose of making it more deadly—is a dangerous falsehood.

Therein lies the chasm between those seeking constitutionally impossible forms of gun control and their political opponents, who view every proposal regulating weaponry as the first step toward dictatorship. Caught in the middle are the majority of Americans who think people should be allowed to keep guns but seesaw over tougher laws regarding those weapons.

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/07/24/bullet-initiative-354203.html

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Americans Don't Have the Right to Bear Just Any Arms [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP

Any thoughts on the article or do you just uncritically accept whatever any GC advocate says? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #1

I like that dual magazine CZ75.....sign me up. ileus Jul 2015 #2

It's clearly blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #3

That gave me a WTF moment, too. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #11

It did have that beginners Photo-Shop look. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #13

It appears to be a pre-expanded expanding bullet, clearly more dangerous than petronius Jul 2015 #16

Uses a spare magazine as a foregrip, note that the magazine is upside down. n/t Shamash Jul 2015 #18

From the article Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #4

The proposals require compromise from both sides of the issue. SecularMotion Jul 2015 #5

So, where are you willing to compromise? blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #6

He can not say Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #7

"Compromise" is a buzz word for gun grabbers and a lie DonP Jul 2015 #8

So far, the lack of response from the pro-control side blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #9

I have no qualms about the second and third proposals. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #10

That works for me. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #12

Not engaging in discussion and debate gives rise to fears of extremism... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #14

Compromise means you get to ban some now... MicaelS Jul 2015 #23

He wants to ban 100-rounders, he says. Problem is, benEzra Jul 2015 #27

i believe this melm00se Jul 2015 #36

Yep. 20-round magazine, and power similar to a modern .45 ACP. benEzra Jul 2015 #39

What in hell is that thing in the bottom left? nt Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #15

Just a bit of artistic license created by... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #17

I would call that "artistic ignorance." (n/t) benEzra Jul 2015 #25

I think of in shorthand... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #26

I thought it was a meaningless grip, at first. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #37

Could be a Beretta 92 full auto with a oversized front grip? oneshooter Jul 2015 #19

I thought it was a Beretta too. What the fuck is that doohicky on the front, a can opener? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #49

It is a fold down forward grip. oneshooter Jul 2015 #50

If you mean the bullet on the bottom right, it is this: Shamash Jul 2015 #20

Bottom Left or Bottom Right? MicaelS Jul 2015 #22

Peculiar. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #38

And uninformed Controllers are the *last* people we'll trust to decide which guns are OK. NT pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #21

I don't trust that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #30

Those are the bullets capable of knocking airliners out of the sky, dontcha know! pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #35

And that line is drawn at .51 caliber,automatic fire, and explosives. benEzra Jul 2015 #24

What the founders envisioned HassleCat Jul 2015 #28

No. Just no. You could not be more wrong. beevul Jul 2015 #29

Yes, I understand HassleCat Jul 2015 #32

I was referring to the preamble. Do you understand what it says? beevul Jul 2015 #41

Oh, OK HassleCat Jul 2015 #42

No. The preamble to the bill of rights. beevul Jul 2015 #43

Of course. HassleCat Jul 2015 #44

More specifically... beevul Jul 2015 #46

But they stilll connected it HassleCat Jul 2015 #47

In reference only. beevul Jul 2015 #48

You make my point well. Thank you. HassleCat Jul 2015 #51

People also abuse the 1st Amendment; case in point gawker.com Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #52

Again, no. beevul Jul 2015 #53

How dare you suggest the government cannot be trusted! Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #45

"weirdo gun nuts who owned 50 weapons" oneshooter Jul 2015 #31

I'm sorry HassleCat Jul 2015 #33

Accepted, however it is that type of language that makes gun owners oneshooter Jul 2015 #34

I equate the right to *choose* gun ownership, or not, with freedom... benEzra Jul 2015 #40

indicative jimmy the one Jul 2015 #54

Which begs the question blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #55

cuts both ways jimmy the one Jul 2015 #56

It depends on who you ask. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #57

The gun control lobby pushed the "assault weapon" issue as a way to build momentum benEzra Jul 2015 #59

Often, art imitates life, but other times... beevul Jul 2015 #60

+1 ^^^ discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #62

vintage 2ndA mythology re clinton 1994 jimmy the one Jul 2015 #61

Nope, wrong answer. In Clinton's own words: benEzra Jul 2015 #63

clinton quotes re 1994 jimmy the one Jul 2015 #64

I'm familiar with those studies, and it again goes to show how rarely benEzra Jul 2015 #58