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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. "From NRA, quotes about Obamas secret 10 point plan to take away every ones guns."
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not omniscient but the only Obama quote I've seen the RKBA'ers of DU attribute to Obama is his affirmation that the RKBA is an individual right. When was the last time the NRA did that?

Yet I don't see the pro-RKBA advocates citing the President's alleged 10-point plan to take away guns and that is the nature of the "That's just an NRA talking point" canard. (And for many Controllers here that would be 9 points too slow.)

But suppose an RKBA advocate independently makes an argument that mirrors an NRA argument. For example, I argue self defense is a natural right regardless of whether or not that right is recognized by law. I'll wager some RWer says the same thing though I'd be at a loss to provide a citation.

Yet, if someone rejects that statement should they simply say, "Well, a RWer somewhere believes that so you're obviously wrong" or should they say, "You're wrong and here's why" and then proceed to lay-out their argument?

I'm crazy enough to believe the latter (though maybe some RWer somewhere might also say the same thing, so all bets are off). It is the demonstrated inability to engage in the latter that shows the Controllers to be interested in little more than shouting down arguments they are unable to refute.

The Koch brothers are pro-pot legalization so I guess -- "Yay! War on drugs!" because "Boo! Kochs!"

I've seen elementary school aged children formulate more rational dialogues.

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