Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

(12,194 posts) Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:50 PM Jul 2015

Those who would prefer to be unarmed during an active shooter scenario, raise your hands. [View all]

If you'd rather be unarmed during an active shooter event, please, sound off here.

Explain your logic for us.

As for me, I fall into the 'I'd rather be armed' category, if I had the bad fortune of an active shooter event happening in my immediate proximity.

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Those who would prefer to be unarmed during an active shooter scenario, raise your hands. [View all] beevul Jul 2015 OP

Obviously I personally would rather be armed. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #1

It's always wise to be armed. ileus Jul 2015 #2

I would much prefer to be unarmed because I am certain that all of the guillaumeb Jul 2015 #3

+1 villager Jul 2015 #5

Notice that those who respond thus far that they would rather be armed- notadmblnd Jul 2015 #7

Its because the OP was directed at people who would choose not to. beevul Jul 2015 #10

Well it is not obvious to me why one would prefer to be armed notadmblnd Jul 2015 #11

Not what this thread is about. beevul Jul 2015 #14

so your topic is if you don't want to carry a gun I think you are illogical? luvspeas Jul 2015 #80

Nope. beevul Jul 2015 #87

I would prefer to be armed TeddyR Jul 2015 #15

So how would you feel if you killed someone notadmblnd Jul 2015 #18

Not sure I understand your question TeddyR Jul 2015 #25

I was asking how you would feel if you opened fire on a person you mistakely thought notadmblnd Jul 2015 #27

Would not the active shooter be the one actually *shooting* at unarmed people? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #33

You tell me notadmblnd Jul 2015 #37

I would take this far more seriously if you could cite a real-life example of such a thing happening friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #42

Why would I have to cite anything? notadmblnd Jul 2015 #46

I would feel horrible if I shot *anyone*, even if they were actively trying to do harm friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #62

Ah, the gun controllers favorite fantasy DonP Jul 2015 #50

Perhaps you need to read further down before you make assumptions? notadmblnd Jul 2015 #55

We've given real-life examples. You've given citation-free theory n/t friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #69

I think he/she is referring to the implication of being anti-gun. beevul Jul 2015 #76

I haven't made any claims and I haven't given any theory. notadmblnd Jul 2015 #86

The best thing do do is get away from the scene Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #95

Whoa there fella. beevul Jul 2015 #39

So I shot the guy TeddyR Jul 2015 #36

or of you were shooting the bad guy and hit an innocent person trying to flee? notadmblnd Jul 2015 #41

I imagine I'd feel TeddyR Jul 2015 #48

I would like to think that I wouldn't be standing idly by either. notadmblnd Jul 2015 #85

I don't run sarisataka Jul 2015 #21

So are you involved in active shooter events often? notadmblnd Jul 2015 #23

I haven't had anyone shoot sarisataka Jul 2015 #24

I do not think that they realize that the movies are fantasy. eom guillaumeb Jul 2015 #13

Please cite the part of the OP,where I say how I would respond if armed, to an active shooter event. beevul Jul 2015 #26

Here is/was your original post: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #109

No. Sorry. beevul Jul 2015 #110

As I further explained in my response to you when I said: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #111

See, that really ends it. beevul Jul 2015 #112

Someone is confused here. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #113

Yes, someone is, but its not me. beevul Jul 2015 #127

Yeah, in the NOrthern Illinois massacre a few years ago, the shooter walked into a 120-student Doctor_J Jul 2015 #28

"Think of how much better it would have turned out if all 120 students had opened fire." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #30

So are you ok TeddyR Jul 2015 #51

Or the massacre in the grammar school. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #108

I would rather be in a gun free zone Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #4

I would prefer to be unarmed notadmblnd Jul 2015 #6

Interesting. beevul Jul 2015 #12

nope, there are guns in my house right now notadmblnd Jul 2015 #16

Ok. Thank you. beevul Jul 2015 #19

I can only see two reasons for wanting to go through life armed. notadmblnd Jul 2015 #29

Fortunately, you are free to go through life unarmed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #35

if I were to be armed and opened fire to feed my ego by thinking I could save the day. gejohnston Jul 2015 #32

"I would if I were be involved in an airplane crash" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #40

I never claimed anyone was obligated to disarm notadmblnd Jul 2015 #44

i'd rather be unarmed. unblock Jul 2015 #8

"the odds of me successfully using it..." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #45

"controllers", haha! unblock Jul 2015 #73

"Controller" is the sobriquet for those who want gun control without actual regard Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #78

yeah, like i said, your meaning i got. unblock Jul 2015 #82

It's a disturbing sight to watch as Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #90

Thats a dose of reality right there... beevul Jul 2015 #93

i won't alert, i've taken threads on tangents myself from time to time. unblock Jul 2015 #114

FWIW, I wasn't referring to you. beevul Jul 2015 #129

I'm impressed SecularMotion Jul 2015 #115

You're claiming NRA is drawing its talking points from the Controllers here at DU? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #116

Here's your chance to prove my post is wrong -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #117

Here you go SecularMotion Jul 2015 #118

Seeing as my post had absolutely 0 NRA talking points not 1 of those "facts" relates to my post. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #119

The honorable thing to do would be to withdraw your accusation since none of the points you Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #120

You're entitled to your opinion. SecularMotion Jul 2015 #121

You're not entitled to deliberately spread falsehoods. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #122

See post #121 SecularMotion Jul 2015 #123

Hiding behind silly non-posts doesn't show where any of my points in any way mirror the NRAs Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #124

Thats not an opinion, SecMo, its a fact. N/T beevul Jul 2015 #130

I'll go with odds safeinOhio Jul 2015 #9

I hope to never be there TeddyR Jul 2015 #20

"Always zig then zag when you run." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #34

Unless you can shoot on the run, safeinOhio Jul 2015 #43

Except that's not how real life works. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #49

always zig then zag and other bad advice from movies gejohnston Jul 2015 #38

From the nyt.com safeinOhio Jul 2015 #47

Yep TeddyR Jul 2015 #53

Fatal gun accidents happen safeinOhio Jul 2015 #58

false equivlence gejohnston Jul 2015 #61

"several hundred thousand times a year" safeinOhio Jul 2015 #67

take your pick of several studies gejohnston Jul 2015 #71

CDC uses self-reported incidents safeinOhio Jul 2015 #75

actually, they did a survey of several studies gejohnston Jul 2015 #79

Would you be opposed to the CDC sarisataka Jul 2015 #83

Define 'trained police' in the context of NYC police firearms use. beevul Jul 2015 #54

the average CCW holder is better trained than NYPD gejohnston Jul 2015 #59

Many of those recent active shooters were teens or safeinOhio Jul 2015 #68

which has what to do with CCW holders or cops? gejohnston Jul 2015 #72

Here are a couple of average CCW holder safeinOhio Jul 2015 #70

one incident is not data gejohnston Jul 2015 #74

The devil is in the details though Lurks Often Jul 2015 #103

NYC police are a poor example. Straw Man Jul 2015 #125

I doubt that any of the posters expressing concern about "friendly fire" incidents... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #17

Yeah TeddyR Jul 2015 #22

As you've seen, there are several Friends of Fred (Colon) posting in this thread: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #31

Jeebus H Christ pkdu Jul 2015 #96

I believe that was the well trained NYPD with their 12lb trigger Glocks. n/t oneshooter Jul 2015 #102

Try again: "Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #105

If I had a gun, I'd be shot first Warpy Jul 2015 #52

"Guns don't save you". Except when they do. beevul Jul 2015 #56

except when they dont pkdu Jul 2015 #97

The police being poor marksman, reflects only on police. beevul Jul 2015 #98

Oh , the " idiots with guns are better than LEO" defence...nice try pkdu Jul 2015 #99

Nope. beevul Jul 2015 #100

Looks like us 'yahoos' are better at factual accuracy than he is... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #106

So you use one instance TeddyR Jul 2015 #57

they also saved several others by gejohnston Jul 2015 #64

You just like every the talk, don't you matt819 Jul 2015 #60

"Your post just called out for a response." An intelligent one would have been better. YMMV... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #65

i would not want have to carry a gun every place all of the time for the unlikely HFRN Jul 2015 #63

all the mass killings i remember were committed by people who purchased their guns samsingh Jul 2015 #66

so would I but that's not gonna happen discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #101

I would rather be unarmed in any circumstance... luvspeas Jul 2015 #77

Nobody said you did. beevul Jul 2015 #84

you did say just that and I don't understand your reasoning... luvspeas Jul 2015 #88

That includes, I assume, people that already own them? beevul Jul 2015 #91

"In my opinion anyone who wants to own a gun is a spineless coward" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #92

Reminds me of a debate on twin engine WW II fighters versus single engine fighters beardown Jul 2015 #81

Saying you have a gun is considered in DGU data though some SD pros don't ... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #107

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #89

I would prefer to be armed, but that doesn't mean I would return fire. Kennah Jul 2015 #94

Correct. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #104

I would be since I do not have a gun. roody Jul 2015 #126

I would rather nobody be armed. Seems the most logical option for a civilized society. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #128

A civilized society of people regarded as children, perhaps. beevul Jul 2015 #132

I am not sure I understand your response. Are you saying that it would be childish AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #134

I don't know how civilized society is or is not but Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #135

Nope. beevul Jul 2015 #136

civilized and uncivilized are value judgements, gejohnston Jul 2015 #139

Only if genuinely, universally civilized. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #149

I seem to remember zipplewrath Jul 2015 #131

Oh yea-... deathrind Jul 2015 #133

EVERYONE DIES!!! PERIOD sanatanadharma Jul 2015 #137

"Any list of purported gun-saves-stories needs to be placed along side a list..." beevul Jul 2015 #138

If everyone dies repeatedly and pays their karmic debt, what's the big deal? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #142

Now there's a different item n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #144

LOL, nice timing. Classy as usual. nt Logical Jul 2015 #140

Meaning what, exactly? beevul Jul 2015 #141

Oh, come on! Of course you should have known. Was it really that hard to predict? stone space Aug 2015 #148

I would definitely prefer to be armed but that's not happening discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #143

Well since apparently my family has found themselves on some idiots kill list, too AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #145

To avoid escalation. Starboard Tack Jul 2015 #146

only one person has a choice about attending gejohnston Jul 2015 #147