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In reply to the discussion: MSNBC gun carry poll. [View all]
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
30. Is doubling down on wrong a compulsion with you?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jul 2016
What are you talking about if not polls? you talking about elections? referendums? this argument started due your posting an unscientific internet poll & then touting it.


Failing previously, here you are asking a question I have already answered, in yet another poor attempt to ascribe to me, sentiment I did not author. To people who are fluent in English and who don't try to misrepresent the sentiments of others, this answers the question you asked:

When I said "the result isn't 'bogus', its a reflection of the sad reality of the side of the issue that you are on", I wasn't referring to the poll result. I was referring to the result of one group having more intensity than another. The astute reader will notice and take into context, the words at the very beginning of my sentence: "In general". To the honest (and the literate), the words "in general" denote quite a different meaning than "when it comes to internet polls".

Your above argument is invalid overall. If there is one group having a higher intensity than another group, it does not necessarily mean the high intensity equates to a majority.


Here, the astute reader will notice that jimmy implicates me, backhandedly, of making an argument. He implies that I argued that "high intensity equates to a majority", which is something I haven't argued, and he knows this full well - if I had made that argument, he'd have quoted it.

Gun owners in a properly conducted poll will not be able to respond at 'a far greater rate pace & magnitude'. Duh.


Spoken as if I said otherwise, and I didn't.

Beevul's above is mostly nonsense. Scientific polls require both proper methodology & randomly selected respondents.


It isn't nonsense, jimmy. What makes polls scientific, is methodology. What determines scientific selection of poll respondents, is methodology.

You're just typing to type, or you feel the need to be perceived as authoritative about something today or something...


You, are delusional. Gun control efforts in general have a slight to strong majority in most reputable polls which I have seen.


Like I said a few posts back, work on your reading comprehension, so that you're able to actually respond to what I said, rather than just the parts you're capable of deciphering on your own. I'm feeling charitable though. I've underlined the parts you seem to be having trouble with:

You sir, are in a minority, like all "strict gun control" pushers and the banners that stand behind them, are. Pissing and moaning about an internet poll isn't going to change that, I'm afraid.

Like I said, take a month.
MSNBC gun carry poll. [View all] beevul Jul 2016 OP
Just more proof that we need to repeal the 2A and confiscate every gun in civilian hands. LonePirate Jul 2016 #1
Curious, how does the poll result relate to your confiscatory position? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #3
My hat is off to you HDSam Jul 2016 #7
AKA, violence by proxy. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #11
` Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #4
Well, you get right on that. Be sure to keep us updated with your progress! Just reading posts Jul 2016 #6
No, no... the TTC is: "What could possibly go wrong?" Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #31
Wasn't it last week sarisataka Jul 2016 #10
...No... virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #12
You use of "we" means you'll be signing up to help? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #19
It's good to know that over 294,000,000 people don't agree n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #32
Not sure why the poll included the third choice. Confuses the issue. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #2
92% (almost half a million votes) for "Yes!" Just reading posts Jul 2016 #5
On MSNBC TeddyR Jul 2016 #8
The internet does tend to be overwhelmingly pro-2A. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #9
Except DU, it seems. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #26
bizarro world of polls, I voted twice jimmy the one Jul 2016 #13
I'm sure all the antigun folks... beevul Jul 2016 #14
your light needs a new bulb jimmy the one Jul 2016 #21
Says you. beevul Jul 2016 #22
getting under your skin, am I? jimmy the one Jul 2016 #24
You just can't quit, can you. beevul Jul 2016 #25
truth twisting con artist jimmy the one Jul 2016 #27
Truth denying spin failure. beevul Jul 2016 #28
methodology as well as respondents = proper poll jimmy the one Jul 2016 #29
Is doubling down on wrong a compulsion with you? beevul Jul 2016 #30
Well... tortoise1956 Jul 2016 #15
Taking things out of context sarisataka Jul 2016 #16
Those wacky internet polls... beevul Jul 2016 #17
Supports the contention that they are too lazy to bother DonP Jul 2016 #18
laziness has nowt to do with this jimmy the one Jul 2016 #23
obligatory dots jimmy the one Jul 2016 #20
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