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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
19. Note also the attempt at 'forced teaming' in the post you're replying to
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:15 PM
Feb 2021
...This lack of judgement, the inability to stand up for the process or to stand responsibly for the use of the weapon is important for the continued health of the 2nd. This bill goes a long way to ensuring this and if it means disqualifying some gun owners, then that’s what it means. For the rest of us who are responsible gun owners, it means protecting the 2nd...



A tactic noted many years ago:

How to recognize the tactics used by anti gun activists in their plan to ban guns.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x361725#361836

From post #55 therein:

Empathy: “I’m a gun owner and I support this common sense gun law.” The goal is for them to appear to be on your side then they will try to soften you up to the next step in their gun ban agenda. But remember that even members of the Brady family own guns, that does not mean they are not willing to ban you from owning them.

Also called "forced teaming" by X-digger: "An advocate for more restrictions pretends to be a 'gun person', and decries the problems that 'we' face- nevermind that to many ears, this sounds like, "I'm not a racist, I have lots of black friends..""


I think HR 127 counts as 'harassing gun owners'. From the same post as above:

Harass gun owners: The laws they pass are not designed to make society more safe, they are designed to only effect law abiding gun owners by threatening or harassing them via legislation. Their goal is to reduce the number of people who own guns and therefore the number of people who fight for the right to own firearms. They try to make gun laws complicated and they try to use intimidation via legislation to try to get people to sell their firearms.


So, yeah- you're right to be skeptical. This is SS,DD...

And make it a felony to not pay your gun tax aeromanKC Feb 2021 #1
Say hello to out new QOP overlords and I don't own a firearm. LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #2
These are, I take it, your back of the napkin calculations? mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #3
I did the calculations rather quickly, but I think they're correct as per the text of the bill. Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #6
If you only own one gun ... Straw Man Feb 2021 #30
True, but still much more accurate to say 'for 1 gun' :) nt mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #32
Link mikeysnot Feb 2021 #4
I think it might come down to registering all the person firearms. (also comes in handy if stolen) LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #5
Thanks for catching that, I edited it in. Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #7
Yes glad you also think it is a good start! mikeysnot Feb 2021 #9
Oh, on the contrary. I do, however, appreciate that the matter can be discussed rationally Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #13
This is some serious fantasy writing hack89 Feb 2021 #24
Sorry for the inconvenience, we are just looking for a solution to this shitshow Under The Radar Feb 2021 #8
Because gun control puts Republicans in power... krispos42 Feb 2021 #12
Your OC ideas are good ones. HR 127 not so much just a vote loser. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #14
If this goes anywhere, it'll be a House and (maybe) Senate loser, too. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #18
In my experience... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #22
Why would registration stop what is happening in that picture? hack89 Feb 2021 #25
Registration is a vehicle to expose red flag applicants. Under The Radar Feb 2021 #26
The kid was breaking multiple laws hack89 Feb 2021 #28
I agree. Under The Radar Feb 2021 #29
You're missing the point. Straw Man Feb 2021 #31
The Bell Curve. aka-chmeee Feb 2021 #10
I have no problem with this at all PirateRo Feb 2021 #11
Could you please explain exactly how charging someone $50,000 or so over the course of Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #15
It's merely antigun Orwellian bullshit, on the order of "Freedom is Slavery" and "War is Peace" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #17
Note also the attempt at 'forced teaming' in the post you're replying to friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #19
This "protects" the 2ndA the way Republicans keep trying to "protect" women seeking abortions friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #16
Sounds like that "hunter" yagotme Feb 2021 #27
Sounds fair! Nt USALiberal Feb 2021 #20
Is "Screw anyone who wishes to own a firearm" fair? Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #21
Translation discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #23
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