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In reply to the discussion: Recap of a post in GD [View all]

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
30. Hmmm... making it personal now. I must be hitting a nerve.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021
So, let me get this straight: you object to RF technology because a 'bad guy' would have to steal TWO devices to use the gun against you. Really? WTF kind of reasoning is that? Oh well at least we're past the 'it doesn't work' bullshit argument.


I didn't object, I pointed out that, UNLIKE biometrics an RFID device can be taken along with the gun. For example, I break into a house while the owners are away, and in nightstand drawer there's the gun and the ring/fob/bracelet. Now I have both and can use the gun. The point is, the gun is tied to the RFID chip, not my distinct person.

RFID is pretty reliable; in fact many gun saves use them in lieu of a combination or keyed mechanical lock.

If all of the innovations that make cars so much safer then they were is '60s were strictly voluntary how many would car makers build into their production? NONE. Everything that makes our lives safer is the result of government FORCING business to adopt them. Child proof caps on medication? Air bags? Driver's education? Not a single one and we have hindsight to rely on. If you're concerned about reliability keep in mind that the same agencies that mandate adoption also mandate reliability standards. That whole 'mandate' fear is just a red herring.


Most of the technologies you mention were already in existence, they simply were not standard. Nobody had to "invent" seatbelt technology, foil-sealing technology, or plastic-molding technology. Even airbags were not initially mandated; the Federal reg simply said that cars had to have an automatic restraint system after a certain date. Most car makers satisfied that requirement with the "mad mouse" automated shoulder seatbelt. The technology to make airbags work properly took a few years to develop and incorporate into cars.

And in fact, about 30 years ago safety became a big factor in a lot of products and manufacturers routinely exceed federal standards and even add new safety features to cars of their own initiative.

When there's a problem with a mandated safety feature a recall of the product is issued and the manufacturer will repair/replace the product. Like what happened with airbags recently. Except for GUNZ! No agency can force the recall of a defective firearm. Guns are exempt from oversight. The Remington model 700 is the poster child for that very special status of GUNZ. It had a safety defect that caused it to discharge when engaging or disengaging the 'safety' (safety? Hell, guns ain't safe!) mechanism. Killed a half dozen people. A production line fix would have cost .17 cents


Except that several states have safety standards for guns. Also, gun makers routinely if rarely recall firearms because of design or manufacturing errors, and of course are liable in civil court. In fact, if you scroll down the Gungeon page (it might be on page 2 now) there's a post from me noting safety recall for a S&W handgun.


Damn, lunch break is over. Well, I'll pick this up tonight probably.
Recap of a post in GD [View all] AndyS Mar 2021 OP
Here is my question... TheRealNorth Mar 2021 #1
No, I'm not. AndyS Mar 2021 #2
Did you not recently say you were open to prohibiting ownership of revolvers, pumps, and lever Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #3
Only if after time, statistics and evaluation they AndyS Mar 2021 #4
Thank you for the clarification. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #5
Okay, H. Sleep tight. AndyS Mar 2021 #6
You're missing the part about the breakdown... yagotme Mar 2021 #7
Unsatisfactory discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2021 #8
I think a better question would be, yagotme Mar 2021 #9
Andy hasn't replied to one of my posts in years. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2021 #11
Seems like I'm on ignore, also. n/t yagotme Apr 2021 #12
It's a bit of club discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #13
I was blocked some time ago, for asking a question. yagotme Apr 2021 #14
I wrote a reply detailing the problems with somoone's prposed draconian gun control proposal. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #15
Well, you disagreed with someone... yagotme Apr 2021 #17
"gangs don't count" Please show me where I said that EX500rider Mar 2021 #10
I don't exempt guns from the second point krispos42 Apr 2021 #16
"(C)an only really use one at a time." yagotme Apr 2021 #18
I've seen plenty of dual-wield movies krispos42 Apr 2021 #19
Have shot at SASS cowboy shoots, in Duelist category, yagotme Apr 2021 #20
That's one way to do it with single-action revolvers krispos42 Apr 2021 #22
If one is a good shot, and practices, yagotme Apr 2021 #33
Right. Straw Man Apr 2021 #36
Thank you again for the thoughtful reply. AndyS Apr 2021 #21
Yeah, I got interrupted krispos42 Apr 2021 #23
I remember that post. I pretty much beat you to death with your own talking points. AndyS Apr 2021 #24
You think you did. You didn't. krispos42 Apr 2021 #25
Yes, I pretty much did. AndyS Apr 2021 #26
Oh, I missed your devestating "own" krispos42 Apr 2021 #28
It's okay if you missed my points, it's a gun related affliction. AndyS Apr 2021 #29
Hmmm... making it personal now. I must be hitting a nerve. krispos42 Apr 2021 #30
I'll wait for your complete response. AndyS Apr 2021 #31
Continued! krispos42 Apr 2021 #32
Yeah, right, all the car safety stuff was available just waiting to be voluntarily adopted . . . AndyS Apr 2021 #34
Excuse the intrusion discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #35
Some counter babble discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #27
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