Gun Control & RKBA

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48. ? Hoyt....god bless your soul. You sound so paranoid. What has happened to you in your life to make

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Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:38 PM

Jun 2012

you so fearful and distrustful of your fellow man?

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Microstamp technology is ineffective for law enforcement [View all] Meiko Jun 2012 OP

So sayeth an attorney for Beretta. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #1

It is true that the technology is incredibly easy to circumvent hack89 Jun 2012 #4

Oh, so all you "law-abiding" gun owners will obliterate microstamping. That's nice. Hoyt Jun 2012 #7

Did you read the part about how normal use will wear down the stamp? hack89 Jun 2012 #9

Wear down over a long time. Plus, if even a few aspects of microstamp are still there, Hoyt Jun 2012 #11

Try again - Zimmerman didn't "run from the scene" DonP Jun 2012 #20

Don, lord. We don't need it work for every gun - just some. Hoyt Jun 2012 #23

I have to leave my guns at home - Illinois is anti choice as far as guns go. DonP Jun 2012 #30

People of Illinois are smart. Hoyt Jun 2012 #31

People of Illinois want CCW. Clames Jun 2012 #35

Some people do. I doubt most really want a bunch of gun fanatics carrying them. Hoyt Jun 2012 #36

We'll just have to wait and see what the voters say. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #65

You seem to spend enough time considering their reasons... Clames Jun 2012 #73

iow, it is a matter of WHEN The Revolution Arrives? You do realize what you are saying, right? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #33

I'm saying if your rationale for accumulating guns is fear of "state, " you don't need them on Hoyt Jun 2012 #37

DonP said nothing about a Revolution. You are now being insulting to me with your insinuations and Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #38

So what does "give state monopoly on force" mean to you. That's the kind of fear you hear Hoyt Jun 2012 #39

He is claiming that is what YOU want. leave what -I- want out of this. Let us try to understand Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #40

Like I said, if one's concern is "state power", then one can wait to start arming up in public. Hoyt Jun 2012 #41

but, Hoyt...exactly WHO is the State? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #42

What Timmie McVeigh and followers of "Turner Diaries" fear. Hoyt Jun 2012 #43

-I- am not afraid. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #45

Thanks god. I'm off to dream land. Hoyt Jun 2012 #47

I don't trust the majority of gun nuts, they tend to be bigots,militia types,Tbaggers,etc. Hoyt Jun 2012 #44

? Hoyt....god bless your soul. You sound so paranoid. What has happened to you in your life to make Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #48

I've grown up around right wing, callous, bigoted gun owners. The majority of gun culture. Hoyt Jun 2012 #49

but, now you are a grown man and you can choose your own friends and make your own Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #50

What percentage of the 80 million US gun owners can you possibly be acquainted with? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #51

he has said that he has gone off to dreamland. I hope he takes my above post in the manner Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #53

Apparently you don't know many US citizens because you still carry and promote guns in public. Hoyt Jun 2012 #61

Can we assume your posts concerning others here are of similiar accuracy? I don't own a gun. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #72

ever considered putting that part of Georgia in the rear view mirror? gejohnston Jun 2012 #54

It's the same just about anywhere right wingers live and control the government. Hoyt Jun 2012 #62

That's funny, coming from someone who can't leave home without a gun. Hoyt Jun 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #74

What's funny is I don't CCW. Never said I did. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #80

He used to be an armed robber. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #79

I think you are right. thanks for the link. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #81

But it doesn't work at all, Hoyt. Straw Man Jun 2012 #58

Where should the financial responsibility lie -- those that covet guns and profit from them. Hoyt Jun 2012 #63

Dodge. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #66

More bullshit accusations. Straw Man Jun 2012 #67

The California state police determination was that significant degredation occurred at <100 rounds.. S_B_Jackson Jun 2012 #32

I think the technology is much better than that. Hoyt Jun 2012 #34

You believe many things that you cannot prove, and your posts here re: gun owners demonstrate it. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #52

You are not willing to try anything that might help solve crimes if it impacts your guns. Hoyt Jun 2012 #64

Once again, I need to remind you- I do not own a gun, and haven't for years. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #69

California Highway Patrol determined that the technology is NOT better than that S_B_Jackson Jun 2012 #76

Even you admit that criminals would dump the gun after the crime ... spin Jun 2012 #10

No, you'd have the casing if left at scene and the database would allow police to track the gun Hoyt Jun 2012 #12

The serial number that is already on the gun will allow Meiko Jun 2012 #17

The serial number is not left at the scene when you run. Hoyt Jun 2012 #18

And neither Meiko Jun 2012 #21

What percentage do you really think will be Totally removed? Hoyt Jun 2012 #22

Anyone selling a firearm illegally will simply make sure ... spin Jun 2012 #29

Do you also plan to ban revolvers, brass catchers and replacement parts while you're at it? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #55

Are you going to carry a gun with a brass catcher. If so, you must be worried you might not use it Hoyt Jun 2012 #60

Intresting. Why would you need to purchase a gun made prior to "microstamping?" That worried Hoyt Jun 2012 #14

Same reasons people buy used cars. hack89 Jun 2012 #68

That's not what poster meant. Hoyt Jun 2012 #70

Because it is an unacceptable government intrusion into our privacy? hack89 Jun 2012 #71

Typical. Straw Man Jun 2012 #57

Source - General Counsel of Bererrta USA. Might as well cite NRA or Hoyt Jun 2012 #2

If this microstamp... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #5

Hoyt, C'mon will ya Meiko Jun 2012 #15

Free Republic, Stormfront, NRA, etc., promote guns -- including Beretta. Hoyt Jun 2012 #16

Beretta is involved Meiko Jun 2012 #19

The yahoo who wrote editorial is speaking on behalf of Beretta. Hoyt Jun 2012 #24

He's a lawyer type...he has to look at all sides of the issue. ileus Jun 2012 #25

Yeah TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #26

Especially the fuckers that pay his salary. Hoyt Jun 2012 #27

While those trying to sell microstamping can be trusted implicitly, amirite? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #56

If criminals will not alter the proposed microstamp firing pins, the expensive technology might work AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #3

Good read, straight from the horses mouth. ileus Jun 2012 #6

Yea, and make their money from selling guns to yahoos who scarf them up. Hoyt Jun 2012 #8

Of course firearms are NEVER used for legitmate self defense ... spin Jun 2012 #13

And they have the M9 Military contract. ileus Jun 2012 #28

A link to the UC Davis study if anyone is interested. Glassunion Jun 2012 #46

thanks for the link. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #75

Take a look at this video, it's short Meiko Jul 2012 #77

LOL! I wonder if Eugene Stoner made the original AR-15 firing pin from a double-headed nail. slackmaster Jul 2012 #78

LOL is right!! Thanks for passing this along - I certainly will. NT Simo 1939_1940 Jul 2012 #82