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Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
30. Right here.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:36 AM
Nov 2012
Gun-rights fanatics are heavily invested in the idea that gun owners are divided neatly into two categories, the good guys and the bad guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. They're all brothers of the gun.

You are saying that they (I refuse to say "we&quot are all the same. What else could your "brothers of the gun" babble mean? You're asserting a moral equivalence. You can't see that, and yet you're calling me stupid?

Only convicted felons are criminals. Remember, even unfit gun owners are innocent until proven guilty. That's why we need another category called "hidden criminals."

Spare us the sophist parsing -- you're not very good at it anyway. Using a gun to settle a score or end an argument is criminal behavior, whether or not one is convicted for it, and it is immoral behavior in any case. If you insinuate that I have a bond with those who engage in such behavior, I will ask you to apologize or tell you to fuck off. You didn't apologize. So fuck off.
I concur! tblue Nov 2012 #1
But are bullies done with you? GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #7
God you're fast. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #16
Violent criminals don't need to be armed either. Remmah2 Nov 2012 #35
True. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #43
it is called the laws of probability gejohnston Nov 2012 #2
Most likely he was a hidden criminal disguising himself as a lawful gun owner. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #18
not likely gejohnston Nov 2012 #23
"most murder victims" lina92 Nov 2012 #62
no gejohnston Nov 2012 #63
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #65
Thanks for the input, & Welcome to DU. GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #66
Touting ageism and ableism again, Jason? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #3
You should do a tiny bit of homework and stop calling me Jason. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #19
How about 'the "Carolyn Keene" of gun control activism'?... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #45
Meaningless ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #4
"Your mind must be a very small and dark place." PavePusher Nov 2012 #12
Where did I say you're "equivalent to murderers?" mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #20
a distinction without a difference gejohnston Nov 2012 #26
Right here. Straw Man Nov 2012 #30
Stop being so subtle, Jason. Jenoch Nov 2012 #64
If you didn't exist the NRA would have to invent you. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #5
So my kids are no different from violent criminals hack89 Nov 2012 #6
Did I say that? mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #21
"They are all brothers of the gun." hack89 Nov 2012 #32
pics of perpetrator and car former-republican Nov 2012 #8
I'm one of the good guys. ileus Nov 2012 #9
I do not appreciate being called a murderer sarisataka Nov 2012 #10
You don't read very well, do you? mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #22
yes you do, by implying it gejohnston Nov 2012 #25
I read fine sarisataka Nov 2012 #28
Y'know rrneck Nov 2012 #11
Lte's see here...... PavePusher Nov 2012 #13
poor mikey OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #14
No, that's just typing too fast and not proofreading. mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #24
how much larger? gejohnston Nov 2012 #27
No, I don't think that's the problem. Straw Man Nov 2012 #31
I'll keep this short and simple so Mike doesn't have to proofread much: OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #37
Three out of three dead is unusual with a handgun. aletier_v Nov 2012 #15
The purpose of prohibitionism is to acquire a license to hate Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #17
Some carry a gun to compensate for a small penis Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #29
Use of firearms is a martial art. It is one that can be employed beyond arms reach. PavePusher Nov 2012 #60
Guns and ammo in the hands of the public is a stupendously bad idea. Loudly Nov 2012 #33
Because the government employees whose guns you wouldn't confiscate will always be there... slackmaster Nov 2012 #34
Your only constitutional argument evaporated at Appomattox. Loudly Nov 2012 #36
Then why doesn't the SCOTUS agree with you glacierbay Nov 2012 #38
They'll have another chance to get it right. The liberal dissenting opinion rocks. Loudly Nov 2012 #40
none of them were liberals gejohnston Nov 2012 #41
No glacierbay Nov 2012 #42
Let me answer for him....guns and ammo in the hands of civilians is a bad bad thing. ileus Nov 2012 #44
I'm still waiting to hear about silver dollars. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #47
Way up in price ileus Nov 2012 #48
If every individual in a free state is not secure, the state is not secure slackmaster Nov 2012 #39
PS fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #46
Two problems with your "You lost the Civil War." remark friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #49
No Bigotry fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #50
What on Earth have I ever said or done to connect myself with the South? slackmaster Nov 2012 #55
"Southern" California? Ntxt DonP Nov 2012 #56
Extreme Southern California. I live in San Diego. In fact, my neighborhood is called South Park. slackmaster Nov 2012 #57
see post 58 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #59
While we're on the subject of you misrepresenting my positions, let me straighten you out on this slackmaster Nov 2012 #54
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #58
Excellent point, one must be assured of personal freedom and safety first ileus Nov 2012 #52
BMW 745.....nice car. Wonder it that tells us anything? ileus Nov 2012 #51
brother? oh. please. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #53
He has NOT been arrested. GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #61
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