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Don't people of all religious beliefs suffer Martyrdom? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #1
Not to mention the imprisonment and execution of Atheists... uriel1972 Jan 2014 #2
You are right; people of all faiths and people of no faith at all are prosecuted. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #3
People of faith (and none) are persecuted by people of faith because of their faith. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #4
I would think it would be, given your position. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #5
Is there another group persecuting and killing people for not believing what they believe? cleanhippie Jan 2014 #6
China and North Korea I suppose - and persecuting political dissidents throughout the world el_bryanto Jan 2014 #7
So we agree on what the basic problem really is? cleanhippie Jan 2014 #10
Of course we don't. Why would you think we would? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #11
"But as far as religious belief, the bulk of the persecution is probably done by believers. " cleanhippie Jan 2014 #12
I'm sorry you are confused - perhaps you are mistaking me for an atheist? But i'm a believer el_bryanto Jan 2014 #14
I can see how you would believe that belief is not the shared factor. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #17
Well - that and, as a believer, life is cheap to me. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #20
How sad. Life is everything to me. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #22
Well I'm a believer - we are shallow murderous thugs who hate knowledge el_bryanto Jan 2014 #24
You tell me. You're the one doing it. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #29
I think it's our basic irrationality - we just can't accept reality. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #30
Interesting. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #31
Well we can - many of can choose to accept reality - we just choose not to. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #32
You are, of course, 100% correct. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #34
I thought you'd like that. Gives you that warm tingle of superiority doesn't it? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #35
Not at all. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #38
Well - it depends on who I'm talking to. If I'm debating a serious person worth debating el_bryanto Jan 2014 #41
I discovered that many posts ago. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #42
Nazis, the robber barons, the Red Guard, republicans . . . . rug Jan 2014 #8
The first 3 don't exist anymore, the last use their faith as their weapon. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #9
No, robber barons are extinct and fascism can never return. rug Jan 2014 #13
You seriously misunderstand republicans of you think they are not using belief as a weapon. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #15
And you seriously misunderstand your own question. rug Jan 2014 #16
You keep telling yourself that. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #18
I'm telling you that. rug Jan 2014 #19
And you're telling yourself that. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #21
35 to go. rug Jan 2014 #23
You really need to get the last word, don't you. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #28
^ rug Jan 2014 #36
Or the last symbol. It's the same to you. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #37
. rug Jan 2014 #39
QED cleanhippie Jan 2014 #40
Sorry, the American Nazi Party exists... DonViejo Jan 2014 #46
yes DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #27
That is a terrifying read. cbayer Jan 2014 #25
Syria is in the middle of a civil war struggle4progress Jan 2014 #26
As a general principle, don't believe anything you hear about North Korea. We just don't dimbear Jan 2014 #33
this is heartbreaking! Religious Freedom is a right. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #43
A prayer arely staircase Jan 2014 #44
Amen! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #45
And what's your prayer skepticscott Jan 2014 #47
Lord forgive us. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #48
for the oppressed arely staircase Jan 2014 #49
Amen! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #50
Doesn't apply, sorry skepticscott Jan 2014 #51
he says while ironically telling me how I should pray arely staircase Jan 2014 #52
I know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #53
Would you care to elaborate on that? skepticscott Jan 2014 #55
We don't need you telling us what ppayers we should say. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #56
That's not what I was doing skepticscott Jan 2014 #57
I'm not surprised that the real irony still escapes you skepticscott Jan 2014 #54
lol arely staircase Jan 2014 #58
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