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cleanhippie

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34. You are, of course, 100% correct.

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:00 PM

Jan 2014

Because it's easier for us to cling to our irrational beliefs than to accept reality. Of course some of us are actually delusional.

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The New Age of Christian Martyrdom [View all] DonViejo Jan 2014 OP

Don't people of all religious beliefs suffer Martyrdom? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #1

Not to mention the imprisonment and execution of Atheists... uriel1972 Jan 2014 #2

You are right; people of all faiths and people of no faith at all are prosecuted. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #3

People of faith (and none) are persecuted by people of faith because of their faith. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #4

I would think it would be, given your position. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #5

Is there another group persecuting and killing people for not believing what they believe? cleanhippie Jan 2014 #6

China and North Korea I suppose - and persecuting political dissidents throughout the world el_bryanto Jan 2014 #7

So we agree on what the basic problem really is? cleanhippie Jan 2014 #10

Of course we don't. Why would you think we would? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #11

"But as far as religious belief, the bulk of the persecution is probably done by believers. " cleanhippie Jan 2014 #12

I'm sorry you are confused - perhaps you are mistaking me for an atheist? But i'm a believer el_bryanto Jan 2014 #14

I can see how you would believe that belief is not the shared factor. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #17

Well - that and, as a believer, life is cheap to me. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #20

How sad. Life is everything to me. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #22

Well I'm a believer - we are shallow murderous thugs who hate knowledge el_bryanto Jan 2014 #24

You tell me. You're the one doing it. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #29

I think it's our basic irrationality - we just can't accept reality. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #30

Interesting. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #31

Well we can - many of can choose to accept reality - we just choose not to. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #32

You are, of course, 100% correct. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #34

I thought you'd like that. Gives you that warm tingle of superiority doesn't it? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #35

Not at all. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #38

Well - it depends on who I'm talking to. If I'm debating a serious person worth debating el_bryanto Jan 2014 #41

I discovered that many posts ago. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #42

Nazis, the robber barons, the Red Guard, republicans . . . . rug Jan 2014 #8

The first 3 don't exist anymore, the last use their faith as their weapon. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #9

No, robber barons are extinct and fascism can never return. rug Jan 2014 #13

You seriously misunderstand republicans of you think they are not using belief as a weapon. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #15

And you seriously misunderstand your own question. rug Jan 2014 #16

You keep telling yourself that. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #18

I'm telling you that. rug Jan 2014 #19

And you're telling yourself that. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #21

35 to go. rug Jan 2014 #23

You really need to get the last word, don't you. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #28

^ rug Jan 2014 #36

Or the last symbol. It's the same to you. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #37

. rug Jan 2014 #39

QED cleanhippie Jan 2014 #40

Sorry, the American Nazi Party exists... DonViejo Jan 2014 #46

yes DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #27

That is a terrifying read. cbayer Jan 2014 #25

Syria is in the middle of a civil war struggle4progress Jan 2014 #26

As a general principle, don't believe anything you hear about North Korea. We just don't dimbear Jan 2014 #33

this is heartbreaking! Religious Freedom is a right. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #43

A prayer arely staircase Jan 2014 #44

Amen! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #45

And what's your prayer skepticscott Jan 2014 #47

Lord forgive us. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #48

for the oppressed arely staircase Jan 2014 #49

Amen! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #50

Doesn't apply, sorry skepticscott Jan 2014 #51

he says while ironically telling me how I should pray arely staircase Jan 2014 #52

I know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #53

Would you care to elaborate on that? skepticscott Jan 2014 #55

We don't need you telling us what ppayers we should say. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #56

That's not what I was doing skepticscott Jan 2014 #57

I'm not surprised that the real irony still escapes you skepticscott Jan 2014 #54

lol arely staircase Jan 2014 #58