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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
22. Well again from your perspective, that seems accurate
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:55 AM
Apr 2014

If there's nothing out there, than the psychological or emotional benefits of reaching out to God are all strictly happening within my own mind (my own delusion if you will, even if it's a generally positive one). And any benefits I get from reaching out to God, can obviously be acquired through other means.

But since I believe there really is something out there to reach out too, than I believe that there is something happening on top of those psychological/emotional benefits.

Bryant

I have hated the Duggars since day 1. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #1
are they going to prosecute? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #2
Reads like a civil suit. n/t Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #3
I hope they can get him on criminal charges. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
That would be the optimum. okasha Apr 2014 #5
Tell me, objectively, how this phenomenon describes religion as a whole and rug Apr 2014 #6
They claim it is built into their faith. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #11
That part of religion is but it is far from the whole of religion. rug Apr 2014 #13
I think it was a valid line of question but maybe it could have been worded more specifically. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #14
Unfalsifiable claims are a fundamental part of religion... MellowDem Apr 2014 #39
These Quiverfull/Christian Dominionists are really sick, twisted people. CanonRay Apr 2014 #7
Condemning religion because it can be exploited is so old elias7 Apr 2014 #8
The reason religion often gets singled out is because it's singularly unique. trotsky Apr 2014 #9
Begs the question of whether there was a baby in the bath water to begin with. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #12
Looking for what, exactly? All the "positive" things religion provides? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #15
Not to speak for my fellow atheists... MellowDem Apr 2014 #38
You say you want to hear about the positive side of religion and yet . . . el_bryanto Apr 2014 #10
What positives come from religion that cannot be had from a secular source? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #16
From your perspective - none. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #17
Thats just the response I expected. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #18
I'm not sure what you are asking here el_bryanto Apr 2014 #19
So your answer to my riginal question is "nothing?" cleanhippie Apr 2014 #21
The distinction that needs to be made here... trotsky Apr 2014 #20
Well again from your perspective, that seems accurate el_bryanto Apr 2014 #22
You believe there is something happening "on top" of those things... trotsky Apr 2014 #23
Well it's a benefit to me. What exactly am I supposed to concede here? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #24
As near as I can figure, you think that merely the act of believing in a deity... trotsky Apr 2014 #28
I obviously don't want to insult you or any atheist el_bryanto Apr 2014 #29
Just to let you know what it sounds like to me... trotsky Apr 2014 #30
I can understand that comparison - pears are really great el_bryanto Apr 2014 #31
Correct answer is watermelon. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #32
WATERMELON?? trotsky Apr 2014 #36
You understand yet won't elaborate on it and instead make a flippant remark? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #33
Allow me to apologize if my previous remark insulted you - el_bryanto Apr 2014 #34
No, I'm not insulted. trotsky Apr 2014 #35
Than i guess our experiences are different. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #37
I think secular people can live positive filled lives just as believers. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #25
If everyone had that attitude, it would be refreshing. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #26
It comes from being raised by two parents who don't like religion. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #27
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