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Starboard Tack

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64. OK, you say the other organizations would have disassociated themselves from the individual.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 04:13 PM
Sep 2014

Do you think that this guy being defrocked was an act of disassociation? Did you read the entire piece or did you think there was some kind of cover up going on here.
We all know of the despicable behavior of other priests and the covering up by the RCC. But, let's stick to the OP, which is about one guy in the Arctic, many miles from the Vatican, who raped a huskie and several inuit children 35 years ago. If he hadn't been hiding behind his clerical collar, he would have used other means to scare and threaten his victims. To put the blame for this psycho's conduct on religion or the church is dishonest, inflammatory and ridiculous.

None of those other professions had the power and setting, which is perhaps worse. Coercing victims by telling them "god and hell" will reign down upon them for eternity should they tell someone about the abuse is indefensible.
Iconic imagery that is used for the purpose of reminding the "flock" what has been done in the name of a holy being. Or, what is in store for them should they question faith is inflicting guilt period.
Images of a man nailed to a cross which reinforced every Sunday affects those that are being abused tremendously or they wouldn't of kept quiet for so long. Coercion seems to be a common thread here.
So yes I am eager to place blame squarely where it belongs.
Threatening people to be compliant whatever your means to an end, is NEVER a good thing.


Are you serious? None of my examples had the power? All have the power, from priests to cops to parents. That does not give you a reason to condemn law enforcement or parenthood or the clergy. By your reasoning, the Beatles were responsible for the crimes committed by Charles Manson's disciples and Jodie Foster is responsible for shooting Reagan and Brady. What if Reagan's would be assassin, John Hinckley, had claimed Reagan's love for Jelly Beans had prompted him, would you feel responsible in some way?

The blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the individual who commits the crime.
It was the dog that got him convicted Lordquinton Sep 2014 #1
"found a copy of the Dog delusion next to the kennels?" cleanhippie Sep 2014 #2
Wow. Just wow. mr blur Sep 2014 #5
This concerns religion how? rug Sep 2014 #3
"Priest found guilty of raping dozens of children" cleanhippie Sep 2014 #4
I'm sure it's just a coincidence. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #6
Or just pure wilfull ignorance. cleanhippie Sep 2014 #7
So, are you saying these crimes are a result of his religious belief? rug Sep 2014 #11
He certainly abused religious belief to acquire leverage over his victims. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #12
Others use candy. So what. rug Sep 2014 #14
Really? So what? EvilAL Sep 2014 #21
Yeah, so what. rug Sep 2014 #22
Whatever man, EvilAL Sep 2014 #24
I'm saying "so what" that he's a defrocked priest. rug Sep 2014 #26
It's good that he got caught, EvilAL Sep 2014 #30
Yeah. Rug is just deflecting this. salib Sep 2014 #27
OK, show me step by step how this is a function of his religion. rug Sep 2014 #31
What pre-digested talking point? salib Sep 2014 #32
Let me rephrase. Coherent steps. rug Sep 2014 #34
Huh? salib Sep 2014 #35
I guess I'll have to check back later. rug Sep 2014 #37
You do that... salib Sep 2014 #39
Well, "What pre-digested talking point?" and "Huh?" does not look promising. rug Sep 2014 #40
Again. Pathetic. salib Sep 2014 #41
You're doing great! You'll get to a thought eventually. rug Sep 2014 #42
Lol salib Sep 2014 #43
"Don't tell anyone about this or the boogeman will get you." AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #77
Absolutely agree n/t Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #81
I don't know why Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #45
Do you really think this man was representing the church? Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #49
Yes, the powers of coercion Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #61
OK, you say the other organizations would have disassociated themselves from the individual. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #64
I specifically used the words Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #67
What debate? You are not debating here. You are pontificating. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #76
Dude Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #79
Got a link to me mentioning "conspiracy"? Dudette. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #83
I'm not dismissing the victims in the least. rug Sep 2014 #53
So if I'm to understand Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #62
No, you're the one minimizing it in a rush to use it as an exemplar of religion. rug Sep 2014 #72
You answered Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #73
It's an old tactic, used often by the OP. rug Sep 2014 #74
But then you go on Gelliebeans Sep 2014 #78
Quoting another thread. rug Sep 2014 #80
It has a number of implications. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #23
You are confusing "an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscience 'god'" with a human institution. rug Sep 2014 #35
A human institution that purports to represent, advertise for, and dictate doctrine/terms/etc AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #44
And where in its divine charter is child rape? rug Sep 2014 #54
Did I say anything about it being in the charter? AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #75
To quote a new member, "so what?" rug Sep 2014 #10
Rug. Give it up. salib Sep 2014 #28
Are you dense? rug Sep 2014 #33
Wow salib Sep 2014 #38
I see you said "huh?" again. rug Sep 2014 #55
School text books are not full of daughters sleeping with Jamastiene Sep 2014 #46
Do you actually think child rape is a commandment that flows from the Bible? rug Sep 2014 #56
That poster knows more about sexual predators than anyone should ever have to. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #68
Assuming you're saying that poster is a victim of child abuse, rug Sep 2014 #70
It concerns religion in the sense that the man USED religion to blackmail and coerce the children LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #66
That it says more about this predator and nothing about religion. rug Sep 2014 #71
This hit piece doesn't belong in Religion. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #8
Lol cleanhippie Sep 2014 #9
Don't you like discussing atheism, which after all, is a meaningless concept without religion? rug Sep 2014 #13
"Maybe all the threads about religion in A&A should be removed" beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #15
I'm glad you like that. Look forward to keeping abreast on atheism in the Religion Group. rug Sep 2014 #16
"Look forward to keeping abreast on atheism in the Religion Group." beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #17
Actually, I think you (singular and plural) do. rug Sep 2014 #18
"I'll keep abreast of DU gossip in your group." beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #19
Believe me, there are few things I want to do less. rug Sep 2014 #20
Yep, meaningless without religion. Cool. salib Sep 2014 #29
A defrocked Catholic priest... Kalidurga Sep 2014 #25
I assume one of the faithful has stood up to defend this nonsense with some idiotic diversion. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #47
I'm making the same assumption EvolveOrConvolve Sep 2014 #48
I'm guessing that the usual nannys Lordquinton Sep 2014 #50
You two remind me of people wearing sunglasses and wondering why everything is dark. rug Sep 2014 #58
+1 mr blur Sep 2014 #60
That must be your blind faith kicking in. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #51
nah, my ignore list was based on just reams of evidence. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #52
You really do talk a lot about your alleged ignore list. rug Sep 2014 #59
I really should try the ignore feature some time. Starboard Tack Sep 2014 #63
It is but one of your many incorrect, and stupid, assumptions. rug Sep 2014 #57
The "but everybody else rapes children too" defense seems to be popular. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #69
That is just so vile LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #65
I hope he's put away for a long, long time. But unfortunately he won't get the penalty he also Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #82
"threatening them with hellfire" trotsky Sep 2014 #84
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