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trotsky

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12. Collins advocates "theistic evolution."
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

He rejects naturalistic evolution (the only kind we have any evidence for) and believes instead that his god intervened in the evolution of life on earth. He's even criticized the revamped creationism - "intelligent design" - but only in the way that he thinks IDers are making the mistake of taking a "god of the gaps" approach, claiming god is responsible for everything unexplained. He says that only when he determines a problem is "unsolvable" should it be attributed to his god

This Slate interview from 2009 contains a lot of info.

This is the area where Collins' religion is most in danger of intruding on his science. He believes that it's possible to see evidence of the divine in things like physics equations or patterns of human behavior. While Collins would never suggest that science could furnish any final proof for the existence of God, he's fond of mentioning that the Bible occasionally uses the word evidence. That is to say, he thinks the presence of the divine can be directly observed, even if it cannot be measured and tested.

This is an audacious claim for any scientist to make, and Collins does not deserve a free pass on this from the scientific community.
Collins is a very smart guy who is unfortunately a real Fundie with COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #1
I wouldn't say it is a veneer. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2014 #5
Harris is pissed because Collins is a better scientist and is also religious. rug Dec 2014 #2
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #3
It's a better explanation for Harris' emotional meltdown than a smiley. rug Dec 2014 #4
It's neither an explanation or an "emotional meltdown" cleanhippie Dec 2014 #6
This is eminently rational: rug Dec 2014 #7
I swear, I'm not clairvoyant. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #8
Francis Collins was nominated for Director of the NIH by President Obama and ... Jim__ Dec 2014 #9
Does any of that invalidate his points about the Director of the NIH being a Creationist? cleanhippie Dec 2014 #10
He doesn't raise any points about the Director of the NIH being a Creationist. Jim__ Dec 2014 #11
Collins advocates "theistic evolution." trotsky Dec 2014 #12
Well of course he is. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #13
Your claim directly contradicts what the article explicitly states. Jim__ Dec 2014 #14
Evolution guided by the hand of God. And miracles. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #15
That article says it's just altruism that he thinks comes from God muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #16
Evolution as in the scientific theory of evolution. Jim__ Dec 2014 #18
So we have to swear atheism before doign any science? Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #17
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