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Sweeney

(505 posts)
39. See what? Another excuse for conflict?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:21 AM
Dec 2014

Children are by nature irrational, and that is the primary cause of religion, when that irrationality is turned into faith and dogma. Consider here the words of Lincoln when pressed to stop his kids from running around the white house. He said: Let them run; there is plenty of time for them to get pokey.

There is plenty of time for kids to get rational, but they have only a short time as irrational children, and these are still times of growth and learning. What do you or anyone want to teach? Is it bitterness, rejection, hurt and guilt. Do you think kids do not recognize when they are the source of conflict?

What is the point. It is like Ether. Ether if it exists has in all equasions the quantity of zero. As much as force at a distance seems as though it should have a medium, it cannot be proved or disproved, like God. If God is nothing, then a counter religion like Ahteism is the most pointless waste of time. If you dig into an Atheist, you can always find some deep sense of injury, a psychilogical reason for their counter belief which are after all, beliefs. Why not treat zero as zero and not make a big deal trying to make less of it by the addition of negativity. The problem is God is not God, but the fact that these irrational believers in God have such a huge part of control in our government which should be the seat or rationality.

It is because Christians screw up civil society that so many flock to the churches. If things seem to work better for them, it is because they are an organized voting block which also has people in ever level of government. God only helps those who help themselves throuh government. If you want to make religion as superficial in society as it is in most minds simply rob it of its political power.

All any non believing parent needs is that bond of love with the child that says I love you- and will -because of you being you in your own unique way, and that child will grow into a good person rational enough to make choices on their own.

Wait until she becomes his ex-wife. rug Dec 2014 #1
Sounds irreconcilable. Agschmid Dec 2014 #2
I can't figure out which of them is more justified in fleeing. rug Dec 2014 #3
ikr! Whouda thunkit...maybe people shud work these things out BEFORE they commit to marriage and kids... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #51
The response was skillfully written, in terms of understatement goldent Dec 2014 #17
The British are masters of understatement. rug Dec 2014 #20
There was actually better edhopper Dec 2014 #49
I wonder if they realized how far-reaching this discovery was. rug Dec 2014 #54
They absolutely knew they had discovered something huge edhopper Dec 2014 #55
I have a few friends edhopper Dec 2014 #4
"I think a lot of this has more to do with tradition and community than anything else." cleanhippie Dec 2014 #5
It could be they want them to catch literary references in classic books, and they want them to do MADem Dec 2014 #41
He's an atheist, she's a Christian, and this didn't come up 'til they had a child? Jim__ Dec 2014 #6
They definitely should improve their communication skills. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #7
They should go to a counselor. Jim__ Dec 2014 #9
That is quite common. nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #11
Introduce the kid to world religions. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #8
This^^^ PumpkinAle Dec 2014 #14
My wife and I struggled with the issue of religious rituals. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #10
I always laugh when I hear that not indoctrinating a child into religion is indoctrinating them cleanhippie Dec 2014 #15
Yep. bvf Dec 2014 #23
Indeed.. the thought that atheism is the default position continues to baffle... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #42
It sounds like a tough situation, but the husband can talk to the kid as well Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #12
It's going to be very hard to do Mariana Dec 2014 #24
Well, I guess he needs to just keep telling the kid Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #13
But Mommy might be inclined bvf Dec 2014 #21
It's authoritarianism where things go wrong, rarely religion itself. hunter Dec 2014 #16
The child in question is two years old. Mariana Dec 2014 #25
Our kids are 20+ years now, raised 100% Catholic. hunter Dec 2014 #43
I didn't indoctrinate my son with religion, but I didn't shield him from 1monster Dec 2014 #18
My wife and I pretty much raised our daughter (now 27) bvf Dec 2014 #22
I'm amazed their marriage lasted this long Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #19
I don't often find myself in agreement with your posts, but bvf Dec 2014 #28
Sure as hell should have resolved this BEFORE elleng Dec 2014 #26
Before getting Married HockeyMom Dec 2014 #27
Kids love to see their parents fight Sweeney Dec 2014 #31
Most of the time, the early religious indoctrination works. Mariana Dec 2014 #33
People teach what they believe to be true Sweeney Dec 2014 #36
She should submit to her husband and allow his descion to rule the family Leontius Dec 2014 #29
It depends on her particular flavor of Christianity, I suppose. Mariana Dec 2014 #32
I hope you are joking Sweeney Dec 2014 #35
Do you really not see it? n/t. bvf Dec 2014 #37
See what? Another excuse for conflict? Sweeney Dec 2014 #39
The question was in response to bvf Dec 2014 #44
I some times miss the obvious Sweeney Dec 2014 #45
It's been known for millennia that virgin human females do not give birth Fumesucker Dec 2014 #48
Sorry; but you got your Bible wrong. Sweeney Dec 2014 #50
The Bible is what people think it is Fumesucker Dec 2014 #52
Well Yes... Sweeney Dec 2014 #56
Here is your problem- Sweeney Dec 2014 #30
I am 61, and highly intelligent, nearly a genius. Sweeney Dec 2014 #34
I fear this poor 2 year old would be deluged with all kinds of books about religions muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #38
As much as one may love a child Sweeney Dec 2014 #40
In a love relationship Sweeney Dec 2014 #46
I think of marriage as a partnership, where both sides must work together. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #47
I went through that twice with baptisms. EvilAL Dec 2014 #53
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