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Jim__

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2. Without saying anything about Plantinga's ideas, I think is is undeniable that:
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:59 PM
Dec 2011
... naturalistic evolution (NE) only selects for survival value, not for "true belief" ...

I think it would be amazing if our intelligence tended to generate "true beliefs". Our inability to conceptualize the data from studies at the quantum level may well be an indication of the limitations of our ability to comprehend reality.

There is strong evidence that (non-human) apes cannot process grammar. They lack the requisite brain structures. I believe that human intelligence is, similarly, incapable of grasping "events" at the quantum level. Do you disagree? If so, why?

You call Plantinga's ideas bullshit. Do you think there is any reason to believe that any of our ideas about the ultimate nature of reality are any less bullshit? If so, why?

Note: I didn't listen to the audio.
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