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In reply to the discussion: About respect [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)218. Homophobes who compare ssm to bestiality and call people "vermin" shouldn't criticize anyone
The more vociferous anti-theists here demonstrate the ugliest side of the so-called "New Atheists". Several, I am convinced, are only here to disrupt and give the wrong impression about both DU and atheism.
Disgusting bigoted speech from a person who truly represents the ugliest side of "atheists" :
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=123723
Starboard Tack (10,698 posts)
112. And this has what to do with the RCC?
Why would any couple want to marry in a church that doesn't accept them? Makes no sense.
You really look for extreme situations to provide fodder for your hatred of religion. How about if I wanted to marry my bicycle, or my hamster and some church opposed performing the ceremony, would you be there, fighting for my rights?
I'm sorry, but religious rights and gay rights are not the same thing. I support both. Seems like you only support one. I know many gay couples, some who married in church and some at town hall and some couldn't care less about the institution of marriage.
I think your views are self centered. You want the world to adapt to your values, like the vegan who wants everyone to quit eating meat. What a boring world that would be.
112. And this has what to do with the RCC?
Why would any couple want to marry in a church that doesn't accept them? Makes no sense.
You really look for extreme situations to provide fodder for your hatred of religion. How about if I wanted to marry my bicycle, or my hamster and some church opposed performing the ceremony, would you be there, fighting for my rights?
I'm sorry, but religious rights and gay rights are not the same thing. I support both. Seems like you only support one. I know many gay couples, some who married in church and some at town hall and some couldn't care less about the institution of marriage.
I think your views are self centered. You want the world to adapt to your values, like the vegan who wants everyone to quit eating meat. What a boring world that would be.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=124676
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176. Really? And how exactly did I do that?
You seem to confuse marriage and sexuality. The first is about a ceremonial binding of two entities. The second is about sex.
Who are you to tell me I cannot marry my dog, or my brother, or my mother, or my fucking bicycle, if I so wish. You don't get to decide these things. Sorry to disappoint you.
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176. Really? And how exactly did I do that?
You seem to confuse marriage and sexuality. The first is about a ceremonial binding of two entities. The second is about sex.
Who are you to tell me I cannot marry my dog, or my brother, or my mother, or my fucking bicycle, if I so wish. You don't get to decide these things. Sorry to disappoint you.
A Jury voted 5-2 to hide this post on Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:12 PM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
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Starboard Tack (10,698 posts)
177. No, I am not equating it with anything.
We should all have the right to marry whomever or whatever, provided it is consensual and conducted of sound mind.
Do you have a problem with sisters marrying each other? I don't. How about other family members? Do you draw lines and, if so, why?
My point, as I'm sure you are already aware, was about seeking approval from the RCC or any other church, to get married. That approval comes from within one's own conscience. Official approval comes from the state. Fuck the church and fuck those who want to paint me as an enemy of equal rights. Fuck the bigots and bullies and nasty hate mongering anti-theists. Fuck all fascists.
Happy Easter!
177. No, I am not equating it with anything.
We should all have the right to marry whomever or whatever, provided it is consensual and conducted of sound mind.
Do you have a problem with sisters marrying each other? I don't. How about other family members? Do you draw lines and, if so, why?
My point, as I'm sure you are already aware, was about seeking approval from the RCC or any other church, to get married. That approval comes from within one's own conscience. Official approval comes from the state. Fuck the church and fuck those who want to paint me as an enemy of equal rights. Fuck the bigots and bullies and nasty hate mongering anti-theists. Fuck all fascists.
Happy Easter!
Calling other DUer's "vermin":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1225&pid=595
Starboard Tack (10,719 posts)
7. Ignore them. They neither help nor hinder
They are irrelevant and it is their irrelevance that both pisses them off and motivates them. They have no substance and seek to feed off those who do. Responding to their mockery and theophobia only encourages them.
If you leave crumbs on the lunch room counter, the vermin will come to feed. Keep it clean and they will crawl back to the dark corners to fester and eventually consume each other.
Take comfort in the knowledge that most of us, including atheists, are praying in our own ways for those who are suffering. And we don't care if some choose to pray to a deity. It's the thought that counts.
7. Ignore them. They neither help nor hinder
They are irrelevant and it is their irrelevance that both pisses them off and motivates them. They have no substance and seek to feed off those who do. Responding to their mockery and theophobia only encourages them.
If you leave crumbs on the lunch room counter, the vermin will come to feed. Keep it clean and they will crawl back to the dark corners to fester and eventually consume each other.
Take comfort in the knowledge that most of us, including atheists, are praying in our own ways for those who are suffering. And we don't care if some choose to pray to a deity. It's the thought that counts.
Then claiming you didn't:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=195505
Starboard Tack (10,726 posts)
101. Except I did not "specifically call atheists vermin"
Or anyone, for that matter.
"I honestly don't mind it when people use ugly names and slurs"
That, my friend, was pretty bloody obvious.
What exactly would you like me to own? I don't slur individuals, especially other DUers, YMMV
Happy May Day to you too!
101. Except I did not "specifically call atheists vermin"
Or anyone, for that matter.
"I honestly don't mind it when people use ugly names and slurs"
That, my friend, was pretty bloody obvious.
What exactly would you like me to own? I don't slur individuals, especially other DUers, YMMV
Happy May Day to you too!
And then finally admitting that you did in fact call other human beings "vermin":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=195503
Starboard Tack (10,726 posts)
110. Whoever Justin was being bullied by. Who do you think?
I don't differentiate between individual varmints. Who do you think he was referring to? I was just providing solace to a fellow DUer whom I like and respect, who takes a lot of abuse, and I saw his OP. I used an analogy, which I thought appropriate in this context. Obviously, I hit a nerve with a handful Of members. I guess it would be interesting to do a search and see if those who are so upset are also those who constantly bait Justin. For praying, of all things. But I'll leave that to those who enjoy digging up shit.
Meanwhile, how's your May Day going? Always one of my favorite days.
110. Whoever Justin was being bullied by. Who do you think?
I don't differentiate between individual varmints. Who do you think he was referring to? I was just providing solace to a fellow DUer whom I like and respect, who takes a lot of abuse, and I saw his OP. I used an analogy, which I thought appropriate in this context. Obviously, I hit a nerve with a handful Of members. I guess it would be interesting to do a search and see if those who are so upset are also those who constantly bait Justin. For praying, of all things. But I'll leave that to those who enjoy digging up shit.
Meanwhile, how's your May Day going? Always one of my favorite days.
Some are obviously very young and insecure, looking for approval, while others are just hateful individuals.
Like the person who wrote these hidden posts?:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=48496
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=123943
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=59016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=124676
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=49182
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=119157
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=195640
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"I was raised to treat religion as a private matter." Too bad most religionists don't follow that...
PoutrageFatigue
May 2015
#171
Well he can speak to his own op and believers here have their moments, but...
hrmjustin
May 2015
#87
I don't click on threads bashing animal rights activists for a reason.
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#99
I don't think so. That is why I don't use terms you don't like to refer to you or others
LostOne4Ever
May 2015
#142
No one here is anti-lgbt and we fight against it in our places of worship and communities.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#23
No. They have the right to their opinions but their opinions are not ok with me.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#49
I did. That hate is protected speech. So it's "ok". Are you "ok" with the First Amendment?
rug
May 2015
#34
No what you are doing is acting like a prosecutor and we are not your accused.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#151
It is pointless to bother because when you answer a question you are told you didn't and
hrmjustin
May 2015
#201
No i gave up because you were telling me that I didn't answer a question when I did.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#213
Disingenuous nonsense and insulting people's intelligence are also not signs of respect
skepticscott
May 2015
#46
But how can one respect a belief that ensures another feels terror brought on by someone
AuntPatsy
May 2015
#44
Some people have zero interest in fostering understanding and furthering conversation,
cbayer
May 2015
#194
Trouble is, your point has already been addressed. More times than I care to count.
Act_of_Reparation
May 2015
#200
Well if you're running a contest for rude statements, I provided the winner's posts above.
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#219
Homophobes who compare ssm to bestiality and call people "vermin" shouldn't criticize anyone
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#218
Some believers here on DU, including a host of the interfaith forum, have attempted to conflate
AtheistCrusader
May 2015
#65
I sincerely hope you don't need clarification, since you were the first poster to respond to his
AtheistCrusader
May 2015
#67