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Joe Chi Minh

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14. Two massive fails there, so truly, your psot cannot be
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

taken seriously :

Newton was what today would be called a religious 'nut', so obsessed was he with formulating his own, somewhat eccentric, biblical exegesis and theology. Indeed, he ended up despising physics. He's mocked today for his participation in the belief that was widespread in his day, at least tentative, in alchemy, although it was no more a gratuitous conjecture than phlogiston. In any case his achievements in mathematics and physics are unassailable.

Likewise, like so many of the greatest sceintists in that age of faith, Galileo was not merely a Sunday Christian, but a so ardent a believer that only the power of his father in their society prevented his becoming a priest. His quarrel with the pope, was actually with a cardinal, with whom he had a stormy relationship concerning physics. The whole saga has been misrepresented. Of course, the Church would in no wise have been irreproachable throughout most of its history, which is why Francis is so busy now. But Galileo's religious fervour was never in question, and he died the convinced Christian he'd lived.

As for Tesla, again, your post is totally wrong. Tesla is well known to have been an extraordinarily devout Christian. Indeed, some of his remarks sound to me of a curiously fundamentalist hue. But if he said he found many of his answers to scientific problems in the Bible, who are we to doubt him. Parenthetically, Arno Penzias, co-discoverer with Robert Wilson of the background radiation from the Big Bang, stated :

http://www.bethinking.org/god/did-einstein-believe-in-god

Pascal, another Christian mystic, was not responsible for a new paradigm but was no back number in Maths, either, independently discovering the first so many theorems of Euclidian geometry as a schoolchild. Likewise, Kurt Godel was a major paradigm-shifter with his Incompleteness Theorem, and a firm, if somewhat timid, believer of the Lutheran Church.

The Mistrust of Science [View all] rug Jun 2016 OP
Complete bullsh*t. It was Judaeo-Christians and deists who Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #1
First, Einstein was a pantheist, not a deist. longship Jun 2016 #2
Actually, qite a few scientists were theists before the founding of the USA. rug Jun 2016 #10
Now, you're starting with the Spinoza bullsh*t. Rather than the Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #13
No, one has to actually listen to Einstein to know what he means by Spinoza's god. longship Jun 2016 #18
The funny thing is.... AlbertCat Jun 2016 #28
Oh boy. DetlefK Jun 2016 #3
I presume you're not asserting that atheism is a prerequisite for science. rug Jun 2016 #4
No. DetlefK Jun 2016 #6
Atheists don't claim absolute knowledge. Are you 'agnostic' about Leprechauns? immoderate Jun 2016 #31
Two massive fails there, so truly, your psot cannot be Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #14
Oh, come on. One could as well make an argument that "white people" invented science. DetlefK Jun 2016 #21
"Oh, all the big thinkers were religious! It must have been their religion!" So Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #24
Confirmation bias. immoderate Jun 2016 #32
You seem to have read a different article muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #5
Did you miss this? rug Jun 2016 #8
'divinity and experience and common sense'. It's not attacking experience or common sense, either muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #11
I tend to scan posts too quickly. There is a Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #15
"True atheist scientists are parasites". You get that from a speech about science and vaccines muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #17
No. I was simply 'getting on my high horse' about this business. What Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #19
No. I did not get that from matey's speech about science and vaccines. Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #23
Most of that post is nonsense, and just an excuse to throw insults like 'imbecile' around muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #25
'The great physicist Edwin Hubble, speaking at Caltech’s commencement in 1938, Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #20
It was called The Enlightenment edhopper Jun 2016 #7
Tell that to muriel. He's under the impression this has nothing to do with religion. rug Jun 2016 #9
Many did. Igel Jun 2016 #12
And what an epic misnomer it was. With the daily exposure Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #22
"so-called Evolution" edhopper Jun 2016 #26
My pleasure. Very civiliised of you. And practical. I don't usually argue. Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #29
You don't have to be a 'new earth' scientist to entertain reasonable Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #16
Page 6 of this linked article is particularly interesting : Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #27
Kick! HuckleB Jun 2016 #30
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