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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 12:05 PM Jul 2016

How religion can drive someone to slaughter his fellow citizens – and believe they deserve it [View all]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/how-religion-can-drive-someone-slaughter-his-fellow-citizens--an/

...It is understandably difficult for believers of any religion to accept that the very same religious instincts that drive people to do good and help the world are also those which can also can eventually justify the most heinous acts.

The person who drove that lorry believed he was part of an altruistic and utopianist global project intended to save humanity, not destroy it. The people he killed were, in his eyes, a cancerous obstacle to this vision, and having chosen to reject it had to be removed from the equation.

In this sense, notions of right and wrong or good and evil become highly subjective. For most, the interpretation of Islam which supports this approach is, quite simply, "wrong" because it goes against their conventional notions of morality. We must accept, however, that those who adhere to global jihadism have developed an entirely different moral code, and it is one in which most of us do not fare too well in.

It is important to understand that what we are facing here is an interpretation of Islam which, while it could be argued follows a flawed reading of the religion, nonetheless has its own rich scholarly tradition, having been developed by formally trained and knowledgeable Sunni Sheikhs.


I suspect there will be much attacking of the source by people who don't want to hear this information, but I think it's a very valid point being made. So valid in fact that I suspect those who disagree will be unable to anything BUT attack the source.
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"... The 31-year-old ... drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. He never prayed struggle4progress Jul 2016 #1
I suspect your 5 posts will not go over well here. unfortunately. pangaia Jul 2016 #8
You confuse piety with belief TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #26
"... No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. A source close to the investigation tells struggle4progress Jul 2016 #2
Digging into the guys past for any incident. Igel Jul 2016 #13
... The .. truck driver .. was a bitter divorced delivery man with a violent criminal record — but struggle4progress Jul 2016 #3
... Neighbors told BFM Bouhlel was not overtly religious, but had been depressed – and even struggle4progress Jul 2016 #4
Of course, this could describe literally 100's of thousands (millions?) of people - who don't jonno99 Jul 2016 #7
... So far, the picture that has emerged is similar to those responsible for the Paris struggle4progress Jul 2016 #5
Who happened to be Muslim and killed 70 people? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #10
... So far, the picture that has emerged is similar to those responsible for the Paris struggle4progress Jul 2016 #12
The thing about not showing much interest in religion is what happens when interest is shown. Igel Jul 2016 #14
We "turn to the Lord in times of stress" especially Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #17
So the war on Muslim terrorism is wrong? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #19
War beget$ more war. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #20
Religion on both sides, makes it worse Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #21
I think so. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #22
Do you really believe in what you wrote? Albertoo Jul 2016 #23
It's called blow-back: cpwm17 Jul 2016 #28
Did you read what I wrote? Albertoo Jul 2016 #29
Yes, it is only a mere coincidence that 9-11 was against the US cpwm17 Jul 2016 #31
You refuse to acknowledge the permanence of islamic expansionist imperialism Albertoo Jul 2016 #32
5 replies I can't even see? trotsky Jul 2016 #6
Have you ever seen this? struggle4progress Jul 2016 #11
that looks like what you're doing RussBLib Jul 2016 #18
I posted that struggle4progress Jul 2016 #27
What do your links prove? Terrorists are often recruited among 'sinful' Muslims Albertoo Jul 2016 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #34
That pic illustrates someone I blocked one or two days ago Albertoo Jul 2016 #24
LOL...You talkin' to me? I'm the only one here. You must be talkin' to me! Iggo Jul 2016 #9
People have strange attitudes when something doesn't fit their internal narrative. Igel Jul 2016 #15
All totalitarian ideologies claim they want to promote goodness Albertoo Jul 2016 #25
He's been pushing this war-mongering neo-con crap for at least a decade. rug Jul 2016 #16
Left and Right might agree for once. Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #33
No one who understands the Left would buy that. rug Jul 2016 #36
Isn't it really ideologies in general?..Like that which drove Stalin to kill 20 million of his own? whathehell Jul 2016 #35
No, it's not in general. trotsky Jul 2016 #37
Uh, yes, I think it is, and unless you can identify whathehell Jul 2016 #38
You really didn't read what I wrote. trotsky Jul 2016 #39
You didn't really read what I wrote either...A common DU experience, I'm afraid. whathehell Jul 2016 #40
Good, I'm glad you can accept Hitler's Catholicism. trotsky Jul 2016 #41
Hitler was about as much a Catholic as Trotsky was an observant Jew.. whathehell Jul 2016 #44
No, you have yet to make your case. trotsky Jul 2016 #46
Um, no, you are the one who's been trying to make a case.. whathehell Jul 2016 #47
Alrighty then. trotsky Jul 2016 #48
Hahahaha. whathehell Jul 2016 #49
You need to study history more Cartoonist Jul 2016 #42
No, I'm afraid you do.. whathehell Jul 2016 #43
Here it is Cartoonist Jul 2016 #45
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