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Buzz cook

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10. There are religious people that are pro choice

Tue Apr 11, 2017, 01:39 PM

Apr 2017

So the religion part is not a bar to being progressive. The question is can one be progressive and be anti-choice?

If we remove choice from the equation, then the question is can people be progressive if they do not support one part of the progressive agenda?

What if we change support to does not actively support or oppose one part of the progressive agenda.

Do we say those who are not for the whole progressive agenda oppose it? "Your either with us or against us".

How much support? How much opposition?

Now as far as the DFLA is concerned. They actively oppose an important part of the progressive agenda and they do so with the same kind of lies and misdirection as conservative anti-choice activists do.

They plan to defund planned parenthood. One because after people are shown videos of abortions they tend to not support planned parenthood and two because the federal government shouldn't fund abortion.
The former has to be a reference to the faked videos that circulated last year and as we know federal funds do not support abortion.

I'm going to suggest that once you adopt right wing talking points and threaten peoples access to health care you pretty much cede for progressive bona fids.

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Can religious Democrats be progressives? [View all] guillaumeb Apr 2017 OP

They can be as anti-choice for themselves as they want. But if they are anti-choice for other women, 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #1

An excellent response. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #3

Thank you. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #5

John Kerry and Joe Biden are prefect examples of people who oppose abortion... nycbos Apr 2017 #7

And I, as pro-choice as it gets, voted for both of them. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #8

No doubt. nycbos Apr 2017 #9

The vast majority of progressive Democrats are religious. Lordquinton Apr 2017 #2

I would self-delete, but that would start another thread. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #4

So what's your point? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #6

Simply asking a question. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #11

A leading question that you know the answer to Lordquinton Apr 2017 #18

There are religious people that are pro choice Buzz cook Apr 2017 #10

Not if they oppose abortion and want to restrict my rights. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #12

It all depends on who is defining progressive. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #13

Well then why don't you define it for everyone. trotsky Apr 2017 #14

I have never defined what an atheist must believe. That is for atheists. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #16

Defend your posts. trotsky Apr 2017 #19

Good of you to define the terms and decide the outcome in advance, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #20

So be it. trotsky Apr 2017 #21

Opposing reproductive rights is regressive, it is a conservative position. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #15

My point is that positions vary, even in the Democratic Party. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #17

It is not progressive to oppose women's rights. Period. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #22

I am personally pro-choice. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #23

So you agree it's not progressive to oppose women's reproductive rights. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #24

I am raising a question. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #25

I'm addressing the op: beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #26

They can be Dems (big tent party), but not progressives. ExciteBike66 Apr 2017 #27

If "pro-life" means "legal protection of the unborn" Freddie Apr 2017 #28

I am a male. Abortion would never be a choice for me. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #30

While there are truly progressive WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #29

My view is if you are voting to or supporting people who are trying to end or limit reproductive... hrmjustin Apr 2017 #31

I also support them. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #32

Personally I identify as a liberal Democrat. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #33

My Representative is a member of this group. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #36

Of course they can. Who thinks all religious people are pro-life? LAS14 Apr 2017 #34

This guy: Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #35

And if the threads are checked, one might notice the considerable number guillaumeb Apr 2017 #37

One might notice that. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #38