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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Apr 11, 2017, 02:17 PM

12. Not if they oppose abortion and want to restrict my rights.

If they oppose abortion rights they can be considered Democrats but not progressives.

Did you know DFL agrees with Trump and advocates defunding Planned Parenthood?

Yes, We Should Defund Planned Parenthood
STATEMENT OF KRISTEN DAY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEMOCRATS FOR LIFE OF AMERICA

For many years, many people have challenged the appropriateness of government funding of Planned Parenthood because the organization concurrently has received both funding to counsel pregnant women and to perform abortions. It is a basic principle of ethics that one cannot have any self-advantageous incentive, financial or otherwise, to counsel another person about a moral decision of such great magnitude.

Elected by voters set on eliminating taxpayer-funded abortions, President Donald Trump recently has called on Planned Parenthood to separate its abortion business from its other services in order to qualify for continued government subsidies.

Democrats For Life of America supports this compromise because:

This accommodation satisfies the longstanding and bipartisan federal policy that prohibits taxpayer funding of abortion – a policy that is supported by most Americans. Planned Parenthood’s current extensive provision of abortion procedures (they are the largest abortion provider in the S.) sets it outside the acceptable parameters for receipt of federal government monies.

At Planned Parenthood, tax dollars currently subsidize “pregnancy counseling” services. This “counseling” gets taxpayer-funded reimbursement despite the fact that the primary pregnancy “service” Planned Parenthood offers is abortion. This bias invalidates the “counseling” because the organization clearly has a material interest in encouraging every pregnant woman to schedule an abortion. According to Planned Parenthood’s 2014-2015 annual report, they served approximately 2.5 million people and performed 323,999 abortionsbut provided only 17,419 prenatal visits. And how many of those prenatal visits entailed “counseling” a mother to choose abortion rather than to choose birth?

If Planned Parenthood declines the compromise, the taxpayer funding should be allocated to the 9,800 Community Health Centers in rural and urban communities around the country that provide comprehensive medical care and other health care to more than 25 million people, far beyond the minimal reproductive services provided by Planned Parenthood to only one-tenth as many people.


http://www.democratsforlife.org/index.php/articles-and-op-eds/press-releases/990-defund-planned-parenthood


Interesting indeed. What kind of person thinks right wing anti-abortion propaganda is progressive?

Why do you think supporting the right to choose is a 'purity' test?

What about racism? If someone thinks PoC are inferior are we allowed to say they're not progressive? Would that make us 'purists'?

And lgbt equality? If someone thinks gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married or adopt children - are we allowed to point out that they're not progressive? Would that make us 'purists'?

Or is it just women's rights that can be sacrificed at the altar of progressive inclusiveness?

This may be a big tent and we may welcome anti-choice Democrats but we don't have to pretend that people who actively oppose my rights are progressive.

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