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52. No, I have it precisely the right way.

Sun May 7, 2017, 08:32 PM

May 2017

Your last paragraph is simple dissembling.

Read the question put to him and his answer. He is not simply "criticizing" a religious institution. He is accusing every active member of it of being complicit in its bigotry.

It's the same weak rationalizing given by any antitheist called on bigotry against a religious group and its members. "We're only criticizing the institution" is such bullshit.

So yes, anyone shoveling that shit is pushing bigotry, in this case very specific bigotry towards Catholics, not simply the RCC.

And anyone defending that behavior is, ironically, complicit in it.

Just so we're clear on where you stand.

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'Mother' should not be used to describe a bomb, Pope says [View all] Eugene May 2017 OP

Thank you Pope Francis. MontanaMama May 2017 #1

He can't really control an unofficial nickname for the Massive Ordnance Air Blast. No Superstition May 2017 #2

Well said PJMcK May 2017 #3

From a massive bomb and massive destruction to child molesting in two posts. rug May 2017 #5

You have my permission to complain to his predecessors about the PR cost of their moral failures. No Superstition May 2017 #6

Your permission has as much weight as your objectivity. rug May 2017 #10

Child rape and the catholic church are very relevant, aren't they? WoonTars May 2017 #12

The OP is about a bomb. rug May 2017 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #14

The diversion is all yours. The reason for your diversion is obvious. rug May 2017 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #16

Is it your "point" that molestation be mentioned in every thread, regardless of topic? rug May 2017 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #18

What is surreal is your unspooling your prejudices and calling it discussion. rug May 2017 #20

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #21

The short answer is no. Here's the longer answer. rug May 2017 #22

No rug Cartoonist May 2017 #26

No Cartoonist. rug May 2017 #27

Pope says Cartoonist May 2017 #28

Reuters says rug May 2017 #29

Why was this posted in the religion group? Cartoonist May 2017 #30

Because, despite your reflexive mouthing about his misogyny, homophobia, pedophilia, wealth, rug May 2017 #31

how corrupt the Catholic Church is, and how complicit its members are. Cartoonist May 2017 #32

Go on Cartoonist. State how corrupt the Catholic Church is, and how complicit ts members. rug May 2017 #34

The corruption is obvious Cartoonist May 2017 #35

Let me be very clear on what you're saying. rug May 2017 #37

Yes Cartoonist May 2017 #39

Thanks for the clear answer. So much for the attack the belief not the person bullshit. rug May 2017 #40

You asked for it Cartoonist May 2017 #41

You realize yoiu're calling my family, not to mention practicing Catholics, bigots, don't you? rug May 2017 #45

I think you have that precisely backwards...you are accusing Cartoonist of being a bigot... WoonTars May 2017 #49

No, I have it precisely the right way. rug May 2017 #52

follow the money Cartoonist May 2017 #55

Nancy Pelosi? rug May 2017 #57

I don't approve of giving money to a corrupt organization. Cartoonist May 2017 #59

You're backtracking yourself into a corner, cartoonist. rug May 2017 #61

you use that word a lot Cartoonist May 2017 #54

I know precisely what it means. rug May 2017 #56

I deny calling them bigots Cartoonist May 2017 #58

Do you deny calling practicing Catholics complicit in bigotry? rug May 2017 #60

I deny it Cartoonist May 2017 #64

I know exactly what a bigot is. Someone who broadbrushes every member of a group. rug May 2017 #65

You're still clueless Cartoonist May 2017 #66

"But yes, they are complicit in financing an organization that commits heinous crimes" rug May 2017 #67

accomplice Cartoonist May 2017 #68

That, according to you, includes Biden, Pelosi and a host of others. rug May 2017 #69

I guess English isn't your first language. Cartoonist May 2017 #70

It's good enough to read the ToS - and your posts. rug May 2017 #71

A bomb named for a meaningless acronym meant as a propaganda shot at AtheistCrusader May 2017 #62

I'm having flashbacks to Zardoz Lordquinton May 2017 #8

Ouch. beam me up scottie May 2017 #9

That would require proper recognition for their past crimes... WoonTars May 2017 #11

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #19

Go start a thread on topic, woo. rug May 2017 #23

Could you point me in the direction of where he admits the criminality WoonTars May 2017 #33

Sure I could. rug May 2017 #36

My badge? I don't follow? WoonTars May 2017 #42

If you're talking about "admissions of criminality" you're no longer talking religious issues. rug May 2017 #44

Yeah, still not following? WoonTars May 2017 #46

There are a lot of levels in the abuse scandals (thy're not all sexual). rug May 2017 #50

"There is no moral rationale"...I agree. WoonTars May 2017 #51

If anyone puts their faith in the people running it, yes. rug May 2017 #53

That has been done (the admission) countless times in the last decade or so. George II May 2017 #38

Of their culpability in the crimes and the cover-up? WoonTars May 2017 #43

Whom....'see what eludes whom'... WoonTars May 2017 #47

Single quotes drive me nuts. rug May 2017 #48

It's a republican mother. Turbineguy May 2017 #4

The "mother church" Igel May 2017 #7

In that usage, it is a figure of speech, MineralMan May 2017 #24

I agree with the pope on this one. hrmjustin May 2017 #25

Organizations composed exclusively of men shouldn't either Lordquinton May 2017 #63