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marylandblue

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58. Proof, physical or not, is something objective
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:18 PM
Dec 2017

It's not something that only those with faith get to see.

On edit: because requiring faith upfront is simply assuming what you wish to prove.

Their biggest schism came over this issue. trotsky Dec 2017 #1
Yes, so it did. Good old constipated Martin Luther. MineralMan Dec 2017 #2
I think a lot of you MineralMan, but when it comes to my belief I think the phrase is TexasProgresive Dec 2017 #3
Umm... trotsky Dec 2017 #10
I don't think that was the intent, really. MineralMan Dec 2017 #16
Well sometimes the hard sell is convincing them they are awful and in need of saving. trotsky Dec 2017 #20
It's pretty easy, really. We're all liable to do selfish things that harm others. MineralMan Dec 2017 #21
It's a deep hole saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #51
i can answer this one, having asked it myself. unblock Dec 2017 #4
Well, if that's the case, there sure are a lot of people who MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
sorry i was sloppy to say "if you believe you can't live a life of sin" unblock Dec 2017 #6
I don't think there's any scriptural support MineralMan Dec 2017 #7
not clear on your point. unblock Dec 2017 #12
Yes, you are expected to, but if you fail, you're still covered, MineralMan Dec 2017 #22
So deathbed confessions don't work? Lordquinton Dec 2017 #8
They even have a Sacrament for it Cartoonist Dec 2017 #9
You're dieing anyways Lordquinton Dec 2017 #40
genuine, sincere deathbed confessions work unblock Dec 2017 #13
I've been told that everyone confesses on their deathbed Lordquinton Dec 2017 #39
yeah, and atheists are magnetically repelled from foxholes. unblock Dec 2017 #41
Simple truths of the universe Lordquinton Dec 2017 #42
some christian religions require good works Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #11
Some do. MineralMan Dec 2017 #14
Faith, Repentance, and Action Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #15
If that's the case, there are far fewer actual Christians than people who believe MineralMan Dec 2017 #17
It's been claimed that much of current Xianity is Igel Dec 2017 #29
The concept of divine forgiveness is fucked up, when you really think about it. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #18
Yup. Acts of contrition should be made to the person you harmed, MineralMan Dec 2017 #19
MineralMan Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #25
Character Is Forged on the Anvil of Adversity Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #24
Forgiveness isn't the issue. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #28
Can you explain? Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #30
Is it right for the perpetrator to be receiving forgiveness Mariana Dec 2017 #31
Love and Forgiveness Are Gifts You Pay Forward Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #33
Profound. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #35
Your original comment appears to merely be a statement about divine forgiveness Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #48
The golden rule is irrelevant. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #54
Simple Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #59
Again, that is not what I'm talking about. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #60
This is an interesting question. Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #62
That is the problem when one insists on a very simplistic framing of a faith. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #23
Atheism is not a belief. MineralMan Dec 2017 #26
Of course you believe it to be so. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #27
A simplistic framing Cartoonist Dec 2017 #50
Why do you think a belief without evidence marylandblue Dec 2017 #32
Good question. trotsky Dec 2017 #34
What is the evidence for atheism? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #36
We've looked for God for tbousands of years abd have not found him marylandblue Dec 2017 #37
Have you literally looked? I mean really looked? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #38
I can tell you what would convince just about every atheist Mariana Dec 2017 #43
So you need physical proof. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #44
I'm just like the people Jesus walked among 2000 years ago. Mariana Dec 2017 #45
True, and some still disputed His claims. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #46
But many believed who wouldn't have otherwise. Mariana Dec 2017 #47
True. We are in agreement on this point. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #49
Everybody has a bar of proof marylandblue Dec 2017 #56
Some need physical proof. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #57
Proof, physical or not, is something objective marylandblue Dec 2017 #58
I usually post to political threads Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #52
Religion inspires so many people's behavior, for good or for bad. Mariana Dec 2017 #53
True Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #55
I'll tell you how you ended up here True Dough Dec 2017 #61
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