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Fozzledick

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16. The mystics of all religions teach the same truth - "All is one".

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 04:04 PM

Dec 2012

The fundamentalists of all religions teach the same falsehood - "Ours is the only true teaching and it's contained in our scripture which is divinely authored and literally true in every detail."

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Do All Religions Teach the Same Truth? [View all] cbayer Dec 2012 OP

Religions ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #1

What is the difference between a cult and a religion then? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #7

I really don't know ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9

Hmmm, seems like they could be interchangelable. For me, its... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #20

When used like that, in a derogatory way, "cult" means: eomer Dec 2012 #38

Actually, I think it's a religion once it's survived the death Warpy Dec 2012 #54

Sociologically speaking, cults are just small religions. ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #51

no difference putitinD Dec 2012 #126

Short answer: NO. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #2

Christians? No. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #55

I thought the most basic principle of Christianity was... Speck Tater Dec 2012 #68

Golden Rule is basic in many religions, see below and the Humanist Manifesto jody Dec 2012 #3

Rather, most religions tell the same lies NoOneMan Dec 2012 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #5

Pure Land tama Dec 2012 #12

Orthodox Buddhists generally consider that a product of "corrupting Western influences." Fozzledick Dec 2012 #14

"Orthodox Buddhists"? tama Dec 2012 #22

Hmm, a little research shows it's much older than I thought. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #24

Pure Land is very old, however white_wolf Dec 2012 #28

true much of eastern mysticism can be traced to median empire Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #36

Ann, you are referring to Christian myths. SarahM32 Dec 2012 #37

yes christian myths Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #44

Well, each religion teaches its VERSION of the truth rocktivity Dec 2012 #6

All deity based religions are equally vile, all are cults..... bowens43 Dec 2012 #8

Fundamentalists are not restricted to the religious. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #58

Absolutism is vile. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #134

The truth? The same truth? OK: "Give money." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #10

"Spirituality must conquer the West"? Sounds like they all teach the same lie. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #11

And the broad ethical principles to love and to forgive, to be generous and kind are also shared... eomer Dec 2012 #39

And that is the shameful tragedy which distorts what authentic religion is really all about. nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #59

A true and authentic explanation of religion must incorporate all the facts. eomer Dec 2012 #86

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head skepticscott Dec 2012 #100

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #120

"Authentic" religion is whatever an "authentic" religious person says it is. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #119

No. nt ladjf Dec 2012 #13

It's so refreshing to see so many respond to the title of the piece and not at all cbayer Dec 2012 #15

You asked a simple question, you got some straightforward answers. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #18

I didn't ask a question at all. I posted the title of an article. cbayer Dec 2012 #19

And as expected, trotsky Dec 2012 #29

The mystics of all religions teach the same truth - "All is one". Fozzledick Dec 2012 #16

Agree and I think that crystalizes the message of this article. cbayer Dec 2012 #17

I agree with your post heading. okasha Dec 2012 #21

Agree. Fundamentalism can apply to all who think they have the "one way". cbayer Dec 2012 #23

I tend to see the central flaw of fundamentalism Fozzledick Dec 2012 #25

But even "literal" interpretation can be highly subjective. cbayer Dec 2012 #26

Who determines what is literal and what is allegorical? trotsky Dec 2012 #27

Each nt tama Dec 2012 #31

Well put nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #60

That's about it. nt tama Dec 2012 #30

alchemy taught the opposite Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #42

Solve et Coagula Fozzledick Dec 2012 #45

hard to say. Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #56

Too complicated. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #61

agreed. very messy Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #65

Utah's Jordan river empties into Great Salt Lake, never reaches the sea. Take that, Mormons. dimbear Dec 2012 #32

Absolutely, the same basic, essential truth, The Universal Divine Imperative SarahM32 Dec 2012 #33

Nice dodge at slipping NTS in there skepticscott Dec 2012 #34

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #35

So how do we classify a church that teaches hate? eomer Dec 2012 #40

Misguided or "sinful". Fozzledick Dec 2012 #46

According to whose perspective? trotsky Dec 2012 #89

According to my perspective, of course. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #94

I think the point is... trotsky Dec 2012 #95

Really? What "fundamentalist-like declarations"? Fozzledick Dec 2012 #99

You judge others for "failing to understand"... trotsky Dec 2012 #101

Yep, I think you've missed the mark. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #103

Ah, so you've invented your own definition... trotsky Dec 2012 #106

OK wiseguy, whats YOUR opinion? Fozzledick Dec 2012 #116

Can we start with the dictionary? trotsky Dec 2012 #117

My my, that's quite a fundamentalist view you have there Fozzledick Dec 2012 #118

Hold on, there. trotsky Dec 2012 #121

So you've still got nothing worthwhile to say. Fozzledick Dec 2012 #122

If you're going to fling ad homs skepticscott Dec 2012 #49

first religions would have to teach truth Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #41

What is the truth, Mr. McCleod? cbayer Dec 2012 #47

The truth about what, cbayer? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #48

the truth is Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #62

I think, then, you may agree with the author's conclusion. cbayer Dec 2012 #63

not really because as i mentioned earlier Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #66

I guess this could be interpreted many ways. cbayer Dec 2012 #70

I know it goes against your very nature skepticscott Dec 2012 #71

an interesting philosophical discussion is to be had about 'truth' Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #88

I'm not convinced that we are talking about different things here. cbayer Dec 2012 #91

An excellent example would be the religion of the Andaman Islanders, a kind of animism. dimbear Dec 2012 #50

What I believe is that Jesus came to save every soul no matter what they believe. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #52

Saved from what, then? skepticscott Dec 2012 #57

Saved from the nothingness of death. Saved from the darkness. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #72

Nothingness is nothing to need saving from skepticscott Dec 2012 #87

Saved from something your god created? trotsky Dec 2012 #90

What a guy NoOneMan Dec 2012 #64

you just dont get it. ;) Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #69

My father told me why not just give every human a boil on their ass for their sins. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #73

He sounds like a dick NoOneMan Dec 2012 #74

Very hard for me to respond to that so I will just say that we all have our own beliefs. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #75

Of course its very difficult to respond to the core logic problem NoOneMan Dec 2012 #77

It is very difficult to explain faith in God to someone who does not have it. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #78

If God does not decide the ways of this world, God is not God. NoOneMan Dec 2012 #79

As I said before My ways are not his ways. I am not God nor can I explain why he does what he does. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #80

Yet you worship an entity that has dickish ways, justified with cliches NoOneMan Dec 2012 #81

What do you believe? hrmjustin Dec 2012 #82

Nothing, nor do I find "belief" to be a useful behavior NoOneMan Dec 2012 #83

Ok I hear what you are saying. I guess we just don't see things the same way. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #84

While the act of belief may require a universal lack of reason... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #85

Ruh oh. Here we go with the *one way/right way* turn. cbayer Dec 2012 #93

My entire life, people have proselytized to me NoOneMan Dec 2012 #96

You don't being proselytized to, right? What makes you think anyone else cbayer Dec 2012 #97

You realize this entire sub-thread started from a "Jesus died for you" comment? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #98

I don't feel mistaken, misled or delusional. cbayer Dec 2012 #102

Your opinion is flawed, IMO NoOneMan Dec 2012 #104

And I think your position is flawed as well. cbayer Dec 2012 #105

So believing in unsupported ideas as truth produces just as valid of a perception of a reality? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #107

Because you don't experience any support for those ideas does not make them less valid. cbayer Dec 2012 #108

Its not just me. There is no evidenciary support, period. Thats why its called "faith" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #109

It also manifests into real world good. cbayer Dec 2012 #110

And its aggregate effect? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #111

Many churches and other religious groups are at the forefront of addressing climate change cbayer Dec 2012 #112

The genie is already out of the bottle NoOneMan Dec 2012 #113

I think there are a lot more factors than theism involved in the cbayer Dec 2012 #114

Agriculture, religion and technology have created our cultivation culture NoOneMan Dec 2012 #115

From the article... ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #53

true and then there are many pantheistic or animistic religions Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #67

Only if you view religions as another SheilaT Dec 2012 #76

I really like this analogy and think you are on to something. cbayer Dec 2012 #92

Clearly not, if by "religions" one includes the various religions that we humans struggle4progress Dec 2012 #123

My take away from this was that there is a core truth. cbayer Dec 2012 #124

Then why are the religious so hell bent on annihilating all other religions? beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #125

Who's hell bent on that? All religious? Some religious? cbayer Dec 2012 #127

Oh brother. Your op said "All religions". beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #128

Of course horrible things have been done in the name of religion, cbayer Dec 2012 #129

They are done BECAUSE of religion. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #130

Your distinction between religions and religious people is not always clear. cbayer Dec 2012 #131

Thank you. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #132

Got it. I will be clearer in the future. cbayer Dec 2012 #133